Code Orange signs to Blue Grape Music (former Founder and Head of A&R of Roadrunner Records)

That promo pic is so f*cking embarrassing

"forward-thinking" band dressing like bootleg 1997 Keanu Reeves looking ass. would still crowdkill someone for an old song though but only a lovetap

Ah yes, the coveted "Grammy nominated" moniker. You can shine a turd, yet a turd it remains. On a more positive note, Reba really needs to get laid. Cheer up ginger beaver.

beginning of the end for these clowns. paid for nominations and festival gigs are stoked.

I thought their last album was going to """save metal"""" hahahaha. That's what Gaymi told us. Nobody talks about this dogshit band anymore. They had their 15 minutes of fame, but the thing is, no matter how much money you put behind a band, if the songs are f*cking shit you're not going anywhere. Back to irrelevance for Chode Orange.

Burying the lede, it seems. Real story is "band no longer on Roadrunner."

First gooers

If there's one band that proves the old guard of label A&R doesn't work anymore, it's Code Orange. Their music is perfectly passable, they're gushed over and hyped up in every publication, they've played every major festival, both genre and mainstream, they're all over wrestling which is more popular than ever, they've opened for the biggest bands in the genre, Slipknot, Deftones, Korn etc, there's a full on early 00s nostalgia thing and these guys can barely move more records than they did on deathwish when they were a converge jerk off band.

Of course they would look like that.

Morgan's a talentless clown. And he and Eric the keyboardist's image obsession with the Matrix and NIN is embarrassing. This latest remix stunt by the two of them passing of the whole band working on a new album when it was just the two of them screwing around with a DAW typifies his disconnect with people who still like I am King. The guitarists are cool though. Reba and Dominic's problem is they let Jami control everything. A shame.

anonymous 3 minutes ago If there's one band that proves the old guard of label A&R doesn't work anymore, it's Code Orange. Their music is perfectly passable, they're gushed over and hyped up in every publication, they've played every major festival, both genre and mainstream, they're all over wrestling which is more popular than ever, they've opened for the biggest bands in the genre, Slipknot, Deftones, Korn etc, there's a full on early 00s nostalgia thing and these guys can barely move more records than they did on deathwish when they were a converge jerk off band. Very well summed up. They have no marketable personality--Jami is everywhere and he turns people off--and everyone else is quiet. If you got rid of him I think they'd find a successful niche, but they never were and never are going to become big.

Surprised there hasn't been any blue grape testicle references yet

code gay

Nice clothes. LOL

Hey Code Orange, how much do clothes cost in the Matrix?

Dear God, how much money have they put into this band with NO RETURN. Give it up already. You have tried multiple tours, changing your sound, and they have gone NOWHERE

You will NEVER be on a, "major level." Just stop and get real jobs. You are never going to make it! Plus, this label will dissipate in two years

Code Sheetrock...amirite?...fellas?

Remember the movie Grandma's Boy? The evil villian video game maker in the movie is this f*cking band 5 times over. LOLOLOLLLLLLOL

Incoming "back to our roots record" and I am king anniversary tours every other year

roadrunner pumped all that money and support into this act and they never cracked the billboard once

Its been 5 years of trying to force this bands success......move on already

anonymous 46 minutes ago Dear God, how much money have they put into this band with NO RETURN. Give it up already. You have tried multiple tours, changing your sound, and they have gone NOWHERE ^ I have posited here before that somebody in this band has Epstein level dirt on these guys and that's why they've been pushed long after showing there's no interest. Also would explain why these guys A&R guys who should be retiring at this point have started a whole new label just to sign a band that has less than half the monthly listeners that Attack Attack has.

While I wouldn't say anyone in this band has much charisma, they've all struck me as "on the spectrum" to the point if you told me they all met in behavioral therapy that would be the most logical explanation for how they all met, it was a really weird move to build the "new" version of this band around Jami as the frontman when Reba does most of the vocals, has the most range, and is the centerpiece in nearly all their big/good songs. Part of why I kinda like this band is because Reba has so aggressively pushed away from any sort of special treatment for being a woman in a band, but she's obviously the most versatile talent.

What a bunch of nonsense about some industry chode lmao

^agreed. I prefer her vocals and she can shred and write a good song. That said, I'd love to shoot loads all over her red vinyl/latex getup and watch her smear it in and make it extra shiny

"Part of why I kinda like this band is because Reba has so aggressively pushed away from any sort of special treatment for being a woman in a band, but she's obviously the most versatile talent." Hope she reads this bro!

anonymous 5 minutes ago "Part of why I kinda like this band is because Reba has so aggressively pushed away from any sort of special treatment for being a woman in a band, but she's obviously the most versatile talent." Hope she reads this bro! Well considering I admitted to even vaguely liking this bands music I think it should be pretty clear that I'm gay.

I still like Code Orange. I'm stoked. So is Mike.Goo.

anonymous 16 minutes ago it was a really weird move to build the "new" version of this band around Jami as the frontman when Reba does most of the vocals, has the most range, and is the centerpiece in nearly all their big/good songs. Part of why I kinda like this band is because Reba has so aggressively pushed away from any sort of special treatment for being a woman in a band, but she's obviously the most versatile talent. But she doesn't do the most vocals, Jami does and has been the focus of their last two bad singles. Fine, I'm a simp too, but it's obvious Reba's the most musically talented person in the band. Jami had to talk her out of her classical flute program at Temple to continue CO(would she have been better off?). And as you noted, she's not into politics or gender at all, which is such a welcome contrast from activists like Emma from Dying Wish or Madi from YOTK. All that doesn't add up to much though if she continues to let Jami run things.

No love for Shade?

The converge jerk off band comment has me dying because I've been saying that for years about this band

Anyone have any Danny Diablo news they wanna share?

I did like that Out For Blood song they did because it's so brazenly the riff from Dice Game by The Warriors with the chorus from Dragula that I kinda had to respect the sheer balls of it.

Mastodon level Epstein level dirt

Underneath came out in the middle of the pandemic. That f*cked up the plans. Album rules. You would have noticed if you weren't high on covid vaccines.

Cosplaycore. Gayers of the Herd.

DGAF about Code Orange but here just to comment that I hope they reprint those OG Blue Grape merch designs and make some real f*cking money.

I respect all the opinions about the woman in this band, and her exceptional musical skills, and even how a few of you want to put some semen on her pvc. But really it's nothing compared to what I had last night when my 15 year old daughter invited her friends over for a slumber party, and they all were really checking me out all night. They were watching stranger things and I kept peaking around the corner at them, it was getting nice and hot, because I was cooking. I started bringing down digiorno's and watched tv with them. I covered up with a blanket and they noticed an up and down motion coming from under the blanket, I heard some giggling and blushing. One pulled the blanket off for all to see. I was trying to get the parmesan to loosen up in the shaker. Under the blanket I thought it would get warm. "We all thought you were doing something else, Kevin," Amelia said. "Oh yeah, like what?" We all bursted out laughing, and it really added a lot of humor to the already fun night.

now that all the retard hc kids hate this band I kind of like em

Is that a pleather wife beater? I back that

Former Code Orange MGR here, I had to quit. I only am in it for the big labels and tours. I need a label that has the funds to buy my band onto every major tour and festival in existence. Now that they are on this Bull Grope stuff, I can no longer hold my head high amongst fellow manager guys in the biz. The Turnstile mgr is going to make fun of me so hard. Any tips from you guys on up and coming bands in the scene that would make a good marketing angle I am totally down to look at them. I can get them bought onto anything.

attack attack was and is way more poplar and successful than code orange. multiple times on billboard. they released a song a week ago with scab lineup and it has half a million views already

With a rich history of working with bands such as Nickelback, With a rich history of working with bands such as Nickelback, With a rich history of working with bands such as Nickelback, With a rich history of working with bands such as Nickelback,

Hey, Nickelback is the best-selling band in the history of Roadrunner.

negan cosplay in the middle

>>anonymous 2 hours ago I have posited here before that somebody in this band has Epstein level dirt on these guys and that's why they've been pushed long after showing there's no interest. Also would explain why these guys A&R guys who should be retiring at this point have started a whole new label just to sign a band that has less than half the monthly listeners that Attack Attack has.<< I say the same thing about Turnstile. Those boring losers' manager must have blackmail shit on someone very wealthy and connected. When a band gets famous out of nowhere, it is 100% FAKE and GAY, just like Turnstile.

They aren't really accepted in the butt rock and metal crowd (which they wanted) "hardcore" and the cross over pop punk crowd find turnstile universally more appealing and are obviously doing much better commercially. I see CO doubling back and doing a return to sound record. /goo

Turnstile have been steadily on the incline for years.

"Jami had to talk her out of her classical flute program at Temple to continue CO(would she have been better off?). " Not to mention forcing everyone to quit the "Adventures" band that had, which would have actually been much more successful that Code Orange. Jami couldn't stand Reba having the spotlight I guess.

^^^^^ Sounds like Code Orange is going to go full Fear Factory.

Poser gays

Let's hear more about Amelia

Maybe switch the name back to code orange kids you wanna be sell outs

If there's one band that proves the old guard of label A&R doesn't work anymore, it's Code Orange. Their music is perfectly passable, they're gushed over and hyped up in every publication, they've played every major festival, both genre and mainstream, they're all over wrestling which is more popular than ever, they've opened for the biggest bands in the genre, Slipknot, Deftones, Korn etc, there's a full on early 00s nostalgia thing and these guys can barely move more records than they did on deathwish when they were a converge jerk off band. this is such a brutal but honest and truthful reality of this band

I say the same thing about Turnstile. Those boring losers' manager must have blackmail shit on someone very wealthy and connected. When a band gets famous out of nowhere, it is 100% FAKE and GAY, just like Turnstile. And yet, no one listens to you because you are a massive moron. Yeah, the dudes in Turnstile are losers, making six figures these days playing music for a living. You are way more successful, clearly. Hey, the toilet is clogged in the Jiffy Lube bathroom. Your break is over; go clean up the mess, dork.

Turnstile have been touring for years and went from being in a van with no tech or merch guy to finally hiring someone and now are about to play stadiums. They did it the right way and hit at the perfect time. The same with the story so far. What will happen in 10 years from now is yet to be seen

At least they dress better than the mars Volta

the thinners been thinned.

Codeestein

This band started off boring, and ended up pure garbage

Agent Orange > Code Orange

People who dress up in all leather, velvet, or wear wristbands are stoked

Do you pick Nickelback or Code Orange?

Can someone explain the Mike.Goo. in the comments please?

You about to get goo'd

Can someone explain the Mike.Goo. in the comments please? ^^^^^ There's a guy in a band who is really named Mike.Goo. The anons (myself included) started making jokes about a silly name. For reasons no one understands, Lu.rk got his panties in a bunch and banned half of the English language. Now, everyone has doubled down on Mike.Goo. In the meantime, we're watching webby's mental illness unfold.

Holy shit these guys are lame.

The irony of all of this is at this point Nickleback is heavier than Code Orange

Dino here, please don't drag Fear Factory into this. We have enough on our plate gearing up to announce the singer nobody cares about, suing furnace fest over their logo and I see Netflix has an upcoming documentary about Pornhub. I am to busy to deal with being dragged into code Orange shit. Their manager wouldn't pay what we asked for the buy on for our big tour so code Orange is dead to me.

Hillbillies from pa are stoked

Guys that like getting pegged are stoked

Generally speaking, pegging is stoked

Nickelback is heavier than Code Orange and the guys admittedly write lyrics that they think are funny and cash out. On the other end of the spectrum you have these guys/gal dressing up like they're in Blade 7 making techno beats playing Trent Reznor. I'll take Nickelback…

^ "Never Again" is a great song.

So much text, so little care

Yeah, the dudes in Turnstile are losers, making six figures these days playing music for a living. Oh will STFU about Turnstile making six figures already - they're not gonna f uc k you bro. Real simple: Turnstile's next album will flop because Brady Ebert won't write it. They're a Turnstile cover band calling themselves Turnstile without him.

Turnstile have been touring for years and went from being in a van with no tech or merch guy to finally hiring someone and now are about to play stadiums. >>> Excuse me, excuse me 1. They are the opening act for Blink 182's stadium tour for free (exposure) 2. They bought this opening slot like they bought their late night tv talk show appearances & ridicilous Grammy nominations. 3. They will never become arena headliner big to become stadium headliner big next. 4. Where's the appearance on Saturday Night Live? Music in a major motion picture? Has Glow On gone Gold yet? No or that would've been announced. 5. No Brady Ebert no Turnstile.

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anonymous 2 hours ago Nickelback is heavier than Code Orange and the guys admittedly write lyrics that they think are funny and cash out. On the other end of the spectrum you have these guys/gal dressing up like they're in Blade 7 making techno beats playing Trent Reznor. I'll take Nickelback… ^^ same here. Unpopular opinion here maybe but I love silver side up and the long road. Next albums were half filler because of the ballads. Then again, other half is good, band is having fun and getting rich doing it. Well-deserved. That's something bands without identity à la code orange will never get

I don't hate Silver Side Up. Then again, I also like Code Orange. I dig it.

attack attack was and is way more poplar and successful than code orange. multiple times on billboard. they released a song a week ago with scab lineup and it has half a million views already ^ Band member comment

This is just one big gay party for them

The chic in the red needs to smile more and get her feet smelled.

JAYSUS WUDNT NO JEEW - DANIEL CARVER OF THE KU KLUX KLAN

Funniest promo pic ever. Them trying to look hard in those outfits lllollolol

I must buy coundom

Playing stadiums is a thing when you're the headliner. Not the opener. For f*ck sake, shitty band of the world #7389277 - Bad Acid Trip - opened for System of a Down in stadiums for a dozen shows years back. Then immediately went back to drawing 50 people in shitty c-level crapholes.

Ah, yo… Danny D here. I saw the one request for some news. Sorry to keep my one fan hanging. Got some juicy shit for y'all today. Just wrapped up mastering for a split ep I'm doing with Billie Ellish. We are covering each other's songs. I'm doing "Bad Guy" and "You Should See Me in a Crown." Billie is doing "Stomp You Out" and "Go f*ck Yourself." Should be packaged and ready to go out the door by June 2032.

>>And yet, no one listens to you because you are a massive moron. Yeah, the dudes in Turnstile are losers, making six figures these days playing music for a living. You are way more successful, clearly. Hey, the toilet is clogged in the Jiffy Lube bathroom. Your break is over; go clean up the mess, dork<< You're kinda proving the dude's point. We know there are dozens of bands better than Turdstile that warrant that attention. Turdstile likely has friends in high places that owe them favors. Look it's okay man...you can suck their dick without guilt. They are a servicable band but they barely crack mediocre at their best. They'd def know someone or something. If you can't accept that reality of the industry then I dunno how to help you

1. They are the opening act for Blink 182's stadium tour for free (exposure) 2. They bought this opening slot like they bought their late night tv talk show appearances & ridicilous Grammy nominations. 3. They will never become arena headliner big to become stadium headliner big next. 4. Where's the appearance on Saturday Night Live? Music in a major motion picture? Has Glow On gone Gold yet? No or that would've been announced. 5. No Brady Ebert no Turnstile. It's funny how desperate you've been the past year or so to downplay their success and the goal post moving you do. Where's the SNL play or music in a major movie? Probably, much like a while ago when you were like "if they were big, they'd be on late night tv!!!" then like 3 weeks later, they got announced on the first, then second, etc. So probably not far off. They will be headlining arenas in the next year. You'll say "doesn't count because they're not NBA arenas!" though. Sad.

I wonder which crew they are indebted to, that they now have to perpetually carry one or two of their goons around on tour. Welfare for thugs/No thugs left behind.

Lol Buncha nerds arguing about a band that plays breakdowns

This delusional "industry insider" without a doubt is the same idiot who said godsmack hasn't had a hit or sold a record in 25 years when they were #1 on rock radio a month or two ago and every single album they have out out has gone gold of platinum

I don't think are associated with any crews, it's not like acacia having to bring out Bruce lepage or emmure bringing out jon Blake like it's 2007 for "crew protection" because they don't exist anymore

Still having a hard time not laughing at the guy who said wrestling is bigger than ever now. Is that why McMahon is about to sell WWE? Wrestling has not been a profitable source of entertainment for so many years now.

Another expert! ^ "World Wrestling Entertainment annual revenue for 2022 was $1.292B, a 17.93% increase from 2021. World Wrestling Entertainment annual revenue for 2021 was $1.095B, a 12.42% increase from 2020"

If Greg Puciato and Coal Chamber started a clothing label it would probably look something like this.

They are dressed like every 90s pay to play weirdo metal band. Just opened a 90s metal magazine and BOOM insta "new style."

They should be embarrassed.

It's funny how desperate you've been the past year or so to downplay their success and the goal post moving you do. >> Their manager James "Rich Boy" Vitalo bought their late night tv talk show appearances, Grammy nominations & opening slot on the Blink 182 tour - that's not "success" that's bribery. Where's the SNL play or music in a major movie? Probably, much like a while ago when you were like "if they were big, they'd be on late night tv!!!" then like 3 weeks later, they got announced on the first, then second, etc. So probably not far off.>> Neither is happening. They will be headlining arenas in the next year. >> No they won't. They'll still be co-headlining 3-6K venues with a band who has equal draw like Snailmail & supporting bigger acts. You'll say "doesn't count because they're not NBA arenas!" though. Sad.>> Serious question dickrider: If they're sooo big why haven't they headlined the closest NBA arena to their hometown Baltimore?

^ do you know what goes into booking a random one off at an nba arena for a concert? Unless it's someone who sells tickets for $150+ this makes zero sense and no independant promoter would bother. They also didn't buy onto the blink tour...Fred Zahedinia books them and a ton of other huge bands.

Do any of you realize how mundane a Gold record is (half a million units sold)? How many shitty to mediocre bands have one? How many fading to hasbeen to totally washed up bands have one? And yet Turnstile The Second Coming of Rock N Roll don't have one or they'd have announced it. Real simple folks: Just 600K could buy your band onto Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel & Seth Myers (200K a show.) Grammy nominations are easily attainable if your record label has a hand in selecting nominees. Wanna open Blink's 182 stadium tour? Be a 3K capacity venue headliner & say you'll play for no pay. This is what Vitalo & Roadrunner Records have done.

I meant to say there are fading to hasbeen to totally washed up artists who put out a Gold album as such. Yet Turnstile can't match THEIR success.

Do you know what goes into booking a random one off at an nba arena for a concert? Unless it's someone who sells tickets for $150+ this makes zero sense and no independant promoter would bother. They also didn't buy onto the blink tour...Fred Zahedinia books them and a ton of other huge bands. >>> Oh so Turnstile is opening for Blink 182 because their booking agent books Blink 182 not on merit thanks. So that means if Fred signed a band with zero releases or shows that band could open for Blink 182 - thanks for proving my point. And you are high if you think Turnstile is getting paid for that tour for anything more than exposure. I didn't say a one off at an NBA arena & Baltimore doesn't have an NBA team, Stupid. Turnstile could easily book a one off at a 10K capacity arena & charge $150 - key is would it sell out? It won't & I'll tell you why with proof in my next comment.

https://news.pollstar.com/2022/12/05/bigger-stages-more-antics-turnstiles-unstoppable-year/ This article was published just over 2 1/2 months. The author is a clueless moron. For one LOL @ her thinking two sellouts at Club 9:30 is some big success when it's not. Those shows grossed 60K - big f uc kin deal if admission was $40 - that's only 1500 tickets sold across two nights an average of 750 tickets a night. It was an underplay i.e. they played a venue too small for them for an artificial two sold out nights. Two their next DC play grossed 280.6K. Yeah CUZ SNAIL MAIL & JPEG MAFIA PLAYED IT TOO. Let me know when Turnstile sells out 6K capacity Anthem ON THEIR OWN not with support who could fill half the room themselves.

The "insider" is an idiot. He should start adding up these sums of money he's quoted.

Opening for My Chemical Romance & Blink 182 is no big deal when you were just picked. MCR & B182 fans don't know or give a f uc k about Turnstile. They're mostly oldheads to me 35 & up. They don't care about hardcore & most of them never did when they were young. They don't even go to shows on a regular basis. Turnstile wins over 5% of their fans tops but how much of that 5% will become diehard Turnstile fans? I don't see a 40 year old MCR fan or a 50 year old B182 fan becoming that sorry. Besides these two are dinosaurs to most people under 35.

The "insider" is an idiot. He should start adding up these sums of money he's quoted. >>> You should grow a brain because 286.4K gross for The Anthem show means half that to the venue which means only 143.2K to the artists minus 25% (15% management + 10% booking agent), tour expenses & income tax. And Turnstile doesn't make ALL the money after that. LOL @ you & the other Turnstile dickriders thinking gross is what Turnstile makes. It makes sense since most if not all things have been free for you thus you have no concept of costs.

I didn't say a one off at an NBA arena & Baltimore doesn't have an NBA team, Stupid. Turnstile could easily book a one off at a 10K capacity arena & charge $150 - key is would it sell out? >> I meant to say why no one off at a NON-NBA ARENA? Go book it Fred.

D-e-l-u-s-i-o-na-l Go back to teaching your "Music industry" classes at Full sail and MIT.

Let me give all you morons out there a course in Headliner 101, make it simple for you simpletons by talking about a 300 sell to room. Sell to not capacity because capacity means the maximum amount of people who can occupy the room. If a room is 300 capacity, staff including promoter is 7 people, bands 13, band crew 5, their guests 25 then no more than 250 tickets can be sold A headliner sells out this room WITHOUT SUPPORT & could sell it out BY THEMSELVES/JUST THEM. If they played a 600 sell to room with a band who draws 300 paid over or under that band & it sells out they are a CO-headliner. That means they are not a headliner in a room this size. Turnstile is a co-headliner in a room twice the size of the biggest room they can sell out as a headliner. To me they're a 3000 capacity room headliner. Respectful but I'm amused at all the idiots who think they're gonna be the next Nirvana with their dated familiar rock & unlistenable to most people hardcore forays.

Cool story bro. Compare those numbers to what they pulled during the "Attitude" era. Not even close. Bunch of weak ass soy boys got into wrestling and turned it into dudes with plain black shorts flying around the ring in perpetuity. No gimmicks. No drama. No theatrics. No writing worth a damn.

D-e-l-u-s-i-o-na-l Go back to teaching your "Music industry" classes at Full sail and MIT. ^^^ Moron who thinks saying gross isn't net is MIT. Try common sense dumbass. Keep thinking Turnstile is gonna f uc k you. If Turnstile was smart they'd do Cameos considering all the dickriding morons like you out there. $100 for them to shout out your band they laugh at off camera - profit off the ballhugging

Let me give all you morons out there a course in Headliner 101, make it simple for you simpletons by talking about a 300 sell to room. Sell to not capacity because capacity means the maximum amount of people who can occupy the room. If a room is 300 capacity, staff including promoter is 7 people, bands 13, band crew 5, their guests 25 then no more than 250 tickets can be sold A headliner sells out this room WITHOUT SUPPORT & could sell it out BY THEMSELVES/JUST THEM. If they played a 600 sell to room with a band who draws 300 paid over or under that band & it sells out they are a CO-headliner. That means they are not a headliner in a room this size. Turnstile is a co-headliner in a room twice the size of the biggest room they can sell out as a headliner. To me they're a 3000 capacity room headliner. Respectful but I'm amused at all the idiots who think they're gonna be the next Nirvana with their dated familiar rock & unlistenable to most people hardcore forays. ^jibberish

LOL @ anyone thinking selling out a 6K capacity room with or without help is a big feat. Yeah for a former hardcore band but that's chickensh it. Know why all these people fawn over Turnstile? Cuz their bands or friends' bands will never reach Turnstile's level of success. It's jealousy minus the dislike or hate. It's even more pathetic than hateful jealousy cuz you like a band who could care less about your band or friends' band, who won't pay it forward for fear of competition - that's Turnstile.

^^^^^ They fawn over Turnstile because they hate them? Take your meds, bro.

jibberish >> No - simple math. If you play a room expecting you to draw 600 & you draw only half that that's a disaster, word will get out & you will be directed to 300 sell to rooms. If Turnstile booked a 20 show arena tour & half-filled every venue their career as an arena band or bigger would be over.

They fawn over Turnstile because they hate them? Take your meds, bro. No, they fawn over them because they will never reach Turnstile's success. You can be jealous without hating. Only one who needs meds between us is you di ckhead.

You're a hardcore band, you've been around for 5 years. You have 10-15 people dancing & singing along to you every show - cool but you'd like it to be 100-150 then 300-450 & so on but it's not gonna happen & you can't accept that. You see Turnstile. You don't hate them but you are jealous of their success. You say they're alright to cope with your failure or imagined one cuz you don't get that 10-15 people going off in every city you play means 1000-1500 go off to you in the 100 cities you play cuz you never got or will get hardcore. You think it's a meal ticket when it's not nor should it be.

Touch me, I'm goo

LMAO @ all you FU CK IN LOSERS defending Turnstile like your momz got f uc ked. Go support them, a weirdo 311/Jane's Addiction/Snapcase mashup with dudes dressing & having hair like it's 1995. I can't wait til these clowns have to stop milking Glow On & start writing a new LP without Brady Ebert the guy who wrote Glow On. Let's see that followup match or better Glow On with a dude from a failed thrash band writing in his place. You all kiss Turnstile ass cuz you wish you had what they have.

LMAO @ all you FU CK IN LOSERS defending Turnstile like your momz got f uc ked. Go support them, a weirdo 311/Jane's Addiction/Snapcase mashup with dudes dressing & having hair like it's 1995. I can't wait til these clowns have to stop milking Glow On & start writing a new LP without Brady Ebert the guy who wrote Glow On. Let's see that followup match or better Glow On with a dude from a failed thrash band writing in his place. You all kiss Turnstile ass cuz you wish you had what they have. They just announced their follow up LP called Goo on it's been completely written, produced, and recorded by Mike G0o, heard Freddy madball will be on a few tracks and Joe Hardcore is fully stoked listening on his vintage record player in his moms basement

Tell Joe that he should be focusing on finally getting a driver's license instead of selling out by listening to bands on major labels

I'll tell him when Freddy madball finally gets his back from NYPD for the DWI bunch of FSU bootlickers down there at NYPD

#crewlove

So they got dropped

If Brady Ebert is such a genius why isn't he in the studio writing a record instead of pawing his guitars and selling his used shoes on instagram?

"Cool story bro. Compare those numbers to what they pulled during the "Attitude" era. Not even close. Bunch of weak ass soy boys got into wrestling and turned it into dudes with plain black shorts flying around the ring in perpetuity. No gimmicks. No drama. No theatrics. No writing worth a damn." Dude, you're an idiot. Vince is selling (potentially) because it's worth more than EVER. it's valued somewhere between 4 and 5 bil last I heard, and they're looking at offers for about 9b. There are multiple parties interested. Does that sound like something that's dying? The fact you used "soy boy," is enough proof you're a f*cking imbecile, but your lack of basic understanding of media rights and everything surrounding a company like WWE definitely describes someone who thought a fire truck shooting milk was "good" who now works for the DPW in their county.

^the wwe expert in the comments doubles as the music industry insider spewing nonsense

I'd buy Meredith's used shoes

I'm going to bring it back to the topic on hand... Generally speaking would you f*ckers play in Nickelback, laugh at the industry, make millions a year writing joke lyrics and be cool with being 'heavier' than these guys (accidentally)? Count me in...

Everyone relax, this isn't a step up for them.

If Brady Ebert is such a genius why isn't he in the studio writing a record instead of pawing his guitars and selling his used shoes on instagram? >>> He's not doing any of that & so what if he was? p Post his Instagram or STFU. Facts are Brady started Turnstile & wrote the lion's share of the music which made them including Glow On. Turnstile has never put out a record without him - now they will have to put out a record without him. They can't milk Glow On forever & btw when are they announcing that they're writing their next album? Glow On was released on August 27, 2021 almost 1.5 years ago. Time to at least announce you're working on new music. You can deflect all you want but let's see them put out a record as good as or better than Glow On without Brady. BTW countless artists have had money problems despite producing music including Brady if Brady even has those problems which I doubt. It's easy to play music you didn't write.

Love how this article is just about some f*cking lame ass music industry sages that don't contribute shit to society.

As for you asking why Brady isn't writing a record how do you know he isn't & so what if he wasn't? He doesn't have to write one.

Turnstile will be fine now that Mike.Goo plays lead guitar for them. Code Orange would be a Top 40 band if they could get Mike.Goo to play drums.

@shadybrady23 in the comments he talks about selling all his guitars among other things

^^^ Again so what? He said he didn't need the stuff so he figured sell it to people who could use it. Selling stuff doesn't always mean you're destitute. That post is dated 8/24/22 three days before Glow On was released. It's no coincidence that Turnstile announced Brady's departure from the band two weeks before the release - more $$$ for Turnstile with Brady out of the picture.

Y'all know so much about the music industry but don't know Brady probably showed up with a two chord progression and the producer and hired guns did all the leg work to make it what you hear? C'mon. They're in the pipeline now. Writing songs is something they'll never have to worry about again if they don't want to. Focus on staying pretty, and try not to rape anyone. That's it.

The guy who says WWF is more profitable than ever is, unfortunately, correct. To the other guy: I think you're conflating success and quality. The product now is below garbage, and pretty much unwatchable to anyone who isn't a pronoun, a female, an Indian, a Saudi, or a funkopop warrior. Remember that the Attitude era happened over 25 years ago; the pre-social media, pre-youtube world was completely different to what it is now. The exposure WWE now gets in India, etc, is immense. These were markets that the Attitude era only tickled, hence one reason why the quality was much better back then.

I guess you're right about that. It's

Marty from Zao here. Now this is the kind of clothing style our band needs to emulate.

Y'all know so much about the music industry but don't know Brady probably showed up with a two chord progression and the producer and hired guns did all the leg work to make it what you hear? C'mon. They're in the pipeline now. Writing songs is something they'll never have to worry about again if they don't want to. Focus on staying pretty, and try not to rape anyone. That's it. Stop just STOP!!! Brady wrote most if not all the music for Turnstile since day one (2010.) There are no "hired guns" (I assume ghostwriters) you imbecile. I would choke you out if you ran this BS to me in person you are so dumb & such a Brendan/Pat/Daniel/Franz/Greg dickrider. Now you're saying Turnstile is/will be/can be a boy band now where it's all about image "looking pretty and try not to rape anyone." You do know these guys are in their late 20s to mid 30s right? No band looks boyish at that age. In fact Turnstile are grown assed men dressing like teenagers & now fops & it's pathetic.

^^^ No producers or hired guns wrote Glow On or will write their next album, Turnstile themselves wrote Glow On & will write their next album. Thing is Brady not Take Offense Boy wrote most if not all of Glow On but Brady is out of the band so they won't write an album which sounds like Glow On. It remains to be seen what Greg can do besides play what Brady wrote,,ride his coattails & be along for the ride not contributing to songwriting. Look at Red Hot Chili Peppers after Frusciante left & before he came back. Decent music but no Blood Sugar Sex Magik or Californication. They declined after Frusciante then rose back up when he returned. RHCP isn't shit without John & Turnstile isn't shit without Brady. Greg Cerwonka isn't Josh Kilnghoffer. Yeah he can play Brady's parts almost to a tee but still almost & he isn't Brady. He can't, won't & never will write like Brady so he will have to stand on his own music.

I hate turnstile but, 1. 40/50 yr old Blink/MCR fans LOVE Turnstile because it's recycled 90s garbage from when they were kids, repackaged as "real" music lets them pretend like they're still cool because there's a new band they like, half the people sucking them off oldheads going "finally some good music from the youths". The kids like it because they think it's what bands were like 20 years ago. 2. Whether or not they bought on to stadium headliners (MCR seemed to curate their openers personally, blink I'm not sure) or late night appearances is irrelevant. They've become big enough where they're either being invited or "the powers that be" have decided that dropping 200k to put them in those places is something that they can both afford and has the potential for returns. And it does seem to be generating returns, they're well over a million monthly listeners on spotify, gold record may not be much but it's more than most acts get now, they're high up on fest lineups.

Let's see Greg Cerwonka who's so good Turnstile hasn't announced him as a permanent member & replacement for Brady after 1.5 years match or better Brady's output. He won't. He's was a guitarist for a failed now dead thrash band who got what they got on being down with the right people. The music industry can prop up Turnstile all they won't but that doesn't mean anything - look at Code Orange. They haven't gotten bigger despite being handed everything to succeed. They sure could use a wardrobe consultant for their band photos LOL.

I hate turnstile but, 1. 40/50 yr old Blink/MCR fans LOVE Turnstile >> No they don't. They don't like ANY new shit or they'd be at the shows. because it's recycled 90s garbage from when they were kids, repackaged as "real" music lets them pretend like they're still cool because there's a new band they like, half the people sucking them off oldheads going "finally some good music from the youths".>> Turnstile sounds nothing like MCR or Blink & these oldheads listen to real 90s garbage. The kids like it because they think it's what bands were like 20 years ago. >> Today's twentysomething was born to 9 years old in 2003 while today's person under 20 wasn't born yet in 2003 so eliminate everyone under 30. Thirtysomethings were 10 to 19 years old in '03. We're getting to the point that today's 40 year old was 20 in '03 & today's 18 year old was born in '05 & this doesn't bode well for underground music.

2. Whether or not they bought on to stadium headliners (MCR seemed to curate their openers personally, blink I'm not sure) or late night appearances is irrelevant.>>> No it isn't. It's fake. It doesn't truly measure their real drawing power. They've become big enough where they're either being invited or "the powers that be" have decided that dropping 200k to put them in those places is something that they can both afford and has the potential for returns. >>> Glow On their most successful album hasn't even gone Gold so what makes you think their next album will go Gold, Platinum or multi-platinum? You can't always BUY success - see Code Orange who need to hang it up cuz they look & sound ridiculous. Probably smell ridiculous too.

I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that Brady was the sole creative force behind Turnstile/Glow On. Brendan wrote a lot of the TUI stuff, and if you're going to compare post-TUI member output, as much as I think Turnstile blows, it's still better than Angel Du$t. Turnstile are big enough now that even if Brady isn't writing their stuff, they'll be able to find someone, producer/sessions player/new member who can pick up the slack, and that's provided they even still need dumbed down snapcase riffs for their sound.

A million Spotify listeners is nothing especially when Spotify inflates numbers. High on what fests? Big deal top billing on Furnace Fest - they're preaching to the converted there. Shit's a wannabe original Hellfest. Get back to me when they're first or second line on Coachella or any other NON-hardcore/metal fest.

Beethoven here. Oh yeah, I didn't think so at first but yeah, you dudes are totally onto something. Brady IS a musical genius. I mean, it was right there in front of face the whole time. Thanks for showing me the light.

"I would choke you out if you ran this BS to me in person you are so dumb" Cool.

Kinda sounds like elizabeth holmes when she talks. Like she's putting on a deep voice. I need to know more about Turnstile's dinner bill (appetizers, desserts, drinks and tip)

1. 40/50 yr old Blink/MCR fans LOVE Turnstile because it's recycled 90s garbage from when they were kids, repackaged as "real" music lets them pretend like they're still cool because there's a new band they like, half the people sucking them off oldheads going "finally some good music from the youths". The kids like it because they think it's what bands were like 20 years ago. Pretty accurate. And I think we all agree they suck

I'm not sure where people are getting the idea that Brady was the sole creative force behind Turnstile/Glow On. >>> He wrote the lion's share of Turnstile music including Glow On. Proof will be in the next Turnstile album. Brendan wrote a lot of the TUI stuff, >>> So what? That's TUI not Turnstile. and if you're going to compare post-TUI member output, as much as I think Turnstile blows, it's still better than Angel Du$t. >>> It isn't hard to be better than Angel Dust - low bar dude. Angel Dust is Budget/Diet Turnstile & Reverse Turnstile (propped up & going nowhere hence why Justice is still doing TUI - he can't make it with AD alone.) BTW LOL @ TUI in 2023. TUI 2023: Justice Needs The Money. Monolithic LOL @ Turnstile not taking Angel Dust on tour with them.

Turnstile are big enough now that even if Brady isn't writing their stuff, they'll be able to find someone, producer/sessions player/new member who can pick up the slack, and that's provided they even still need dumbed down snapcase riffs for their sound. >>> Who is this mythical "producer" you speak of? I assume the producer for Glow On Turnstile's most successful record right? Who else? Or the band's gonna fix what ain't broke? A session musician doesn't write music he plays what is given to him & is paid a flat fee regardless of record sales. If you're paid 20K to play on an album which sells 20 million copies you make just 20K unless you receive a bonus too. What new player whrn It's hilarious that you think they need a new producer & someone better than Greg & they need to "pick up the slack". Even you admit they're in trouble without Brady & they are. Real simple: Brady Ebert is Turnstile's John Frusciante & Greg Cerwonka is no Josh Klinghoffer.

^^^ No producers or hired guns wrote Glow On or will write their next album, Turnstile themselves wrote Glow On & will write their next album. Thing is Brady not Take Offense Boy wrote most if not all of Glow On but Brady is out of the band so they won't write an album which sounds like Glow On. ^^^^^^^ They are the level now where producers actually produce. That means you and your homies show up with a song that's a 4/10 and the producer's job is to shorten/lengthen/cut/add/sweeten what you have and try to make it an 8/10. You can say that's not songwriting, buttttttttttt you'd be wrong. Labels are spending legit money and they don't want to roll the dice on some dudes hopefully figuring it out on their own. It's bumper bowling. Your RHCP analogy (btw, you should be deeply ashamed for knowing that much about them) is a bad one. At some point, with enough proven success they give you more control. TS has a while before they get there.

Beethoven here. Oh yeah, I didn't think so at first but yeah, you dudes are totally onto something. Brady IS a musical genius. I mean, it was right there in front of face the whole time. Thanks for showing me the light. Brady isn't a musical genius but he wrote what made Turnstile. Daniel, Franz & Pat are just players & replaceable. Brendan wrote TUI but not much of Turnstile. Turnstile has no choice but to have Brendan to write ALL of the next album cuz it's too risky to entrust Greg or whoever to do that or even pitch in. It will be funny to see Brendan fail to match or better Glow On. If he's so good why did BRADY write most of Turnstile music & Glow On? Their pride won't let them bring back Brady & hire Greg to be his full-time backup & the band's guitar tech.

Poor saps will never be as big as TURNSTILE even though they thought they would hit that level. Turnstile sells out 7500 cap rooms on their own. Amazing

Who is this mythical "producer" you speak of? Mike Elizondo. Look him up and tell me they hired him to just sit there and hit the record button.

Get back to me when they're first or second line on Coachella or any other NON-hardcore/metal fest. ^ They were first line on the Saturday Lollapalooza 2022 Lineup. Listen I hate Turnstile more than even most people that hate Turnstile, but to act like they're not successful or rising is ridiculous. Maybe their record isn't "gold" or whatever, but records going gold/platinum/whatever is a measure of success that was outdated 15 years ago. 1.5 Million monthly listeners may not be a lot compared to other giant acts, but it's significantly larger than really any other Hardcore adjacent band, and a pretty big increase than where the band was even 2 years ago. They're selling out 3k+ venues headlining, you may say that's not a lot compared to previous generations, but it's much better than most of their contemporaries. You may as well be saying "oh this band isn't big because they don't have as many Myspace friends as Senses Fail did". By every modern metric, band is succeeding.

As long as Brendan and Daniel are in TURNSTILE they will be a gold-selling band

Stop just STOP!!! Brady wrote most if not all the music for Turnstile since day one (2010.) There are no "hired guns" (I assume ghostwriters) you imbecile. I would choke you out if you ran this BS to me in person you are so dumb & such a Brendan/Pat/Daniel/Franz/Greg dickrider. Now you're saying Turnstile is/will be/can be a boy band now where it's all about image "looking pretty and try not to rape anyone." You do know these guys are in their late 20s to mid 30s right? No band looks boyish at that age. In fact Turnstile are grown assed men dressing like teenagers & now fops & it's pathetic. ^^^ No one who's abbreviates profanity could ever choke me out.

"ShadowBlade 5 hours ago I guess you're right about that. It's" Now you get it and you can't fully articulate a thought. Jesus, go clean the grease trap you moron.

They are the level now where producers actually produce. That means you and your homies show up with a song that's a 4/10 and the producer's job is to shorten/lengthen/cut/add/sweeten what you have and try to make it an 8/10. >> You can't polish a turd & I love how you are yet another person admitting that Turnstile needs a producer to hold their hands, make it better, polish a turd - typical millenial sh it. So who's the prime era Dr.Dre of rock n roll producer you speak of? Who's the human computer which can replicate Glow On? I need a laugh & don't you f uc kin dare say Steve Evetts or whoever produces Billie Eilish or some sh it.

^ Wut?

Notes about the Turnstile insider: 1. Dude is a stalker. 2. Dude is a sex offender. 3. Turnstile should get a restraining order before he Dimebag's them. 4. Dude is a tweeker. He's been typing non-stop for 23 hours. 5. Dude is talking to himself. Total amphetamine psychosis. 6. Dude sucks so much that I now want a new Zulu post.

Turnstile outdraws the mighty Mastodon and we all know that is peak level bands strive to be. Let that sink in. They will be headlining Coachella this year.

As long as Brendan and Daniel are in TURNSTILE they will be a gold-selling band Exactly! They kicked out the uggo and cleared road to wet-panties-ville

Who is this mythical "producer" you speak of? Mike Elizondo. Look him up and tell me they hired him to just sit there and hit the record button. >>> Oh WOW! A FIFTY YEAR OLD MAN who's success has been with mainly HIP HOP & POP ARTISTS. So Turnstile's next album is gonna be hip-hop? Brendan's gonna get a sex change & sound like Carrie Underwood or Fiona Apple? Either better happen cuz that's who he has had most of his success with. They gonna find Jesus & go gospel? If they do they got a great shot at winning a Grammy for best GOSPEL record cuz guess what as shole? This dude's lone Grammy win was for a gospel album by Switchfoot - SWITCHFOOT LOL You truly are dumber than a bag of rocks & I think you're in the wrong subculture homie. This dude isn't gonna blow them up. They're not Dr.Dre, Eminem, 50 Cent, Maroon 5 or even Twenty One Pilots. No mention of Turnstile on his Wiki schumcko.

Well damn. Even though their tours are selling out, they have mainstream radio play, and songs on a commercial, this one guy in here is very insistent they are not popular at all, so that must be the real truth.

Who is this mythical "producer" you speak of? Mike Elizondo. Look him up and tell me they hired him to just sit there and hit the record button. >>> Oh WOW! A FIFTY YEAR OLD MAN who's success has been with mainly HIP HOP & POP ARTISTS. So Turnstile's next album is gonna be hip-hop? Brendan's gonna get a sex change & sound like Carrie Underwood or Fiona Apple? Either better happen cuz that's who he has had most of his success with. They gonna find Jesus & go gospel? If they do they got a great shot at winning a Grammy for best GOSPEL record cuz guess what as shole? This dude's lone Grammy win was for a gospel album by Switchfoot - SWITCHFOOT LOL You truly are dumber than a bag of rocks & I think you're in the wrong subculture homie. ^ Don't get me wrong, I think your schtick is hilarious. But if not for his success, then why would they shell out $$$ for him? And yes, they are listed in his wiki discography. I want you to do better next time.

LOL to all the pittsburgh kids defending Code Orange....probably that loser AJ in all these comments.

You can say that's not songwriting, buttttttttttt you'd be wrong. Labels are spending legit money and they don't want to roll the dice on some dudes hopefully figuring it out on their own. It's bumper bowling. Your RHCP analogy (btw, you should be deeply ashamed for knowing that much about them) is a bad one. At some point, with enough proven success they give you more control. TS has a while before they get there >> RHCP analogy is on point. Brady left Turnstile & Frusciante left RHCP due to drug problems. Both were the creative forces of their respective bands. Their bands are not as good without them. Oh yeah it's OBSCURE KNOWLEDGE that Frusciante quit RHCP after Blood Sugar Sex Magik & returned to the band to make Californication - are you this fu ck in stupid in real life? Labels? Try just one label Roadrunner Records (you know the one Turnstile is on) dumbass. Turnstile has written 100% of their music clueless. Bumper bowling? LOL you clown

Hey stalker, here is some actual insider info because you have no f*cking idea what you're talking about or know anything about this band. Turnstile will be recording a new album with Will Yip and the Madden brothers. Those producers and also Nick long (who co-wrote a bunch of the new blink record, MGK, Mod sun) are building a studio/collective in Los angeles. You know nothing about the inner workings of this band so please disappear now.

Well damn. Even though their tours are selling out, they have mainstream radio play, and songs on a commercial, this one guy in here is very insistent they are not popular at all, so that must be the real truth. Their CLUB tours are selling out. They had nothing to do with My Chemical Romance's stadium tour selling out & will have nothing to do with Blink 182's upcoming stadium tour selling out. Both tours Turnstile's manager & booking agent BOUGHT THEM ON. Radio airplay means nothing in 2023, no one listens to radio, radio is dead & you tipped off you're at least 40. They have a song in a Taco Bell commercial WOW! ALL THE KIDS are talking about that. And they bought their way into that Taco Bell commercial or do you think TB called up Vitalo & said hey Vitalo we LOVE TURNSTILE - our East Coast VP saw them at United Blood Fest 2014 & LOVED THEM - we want them in a Taco Bell commercial? GTFOH LOLZ

"Who's the human computer which can replicate Glow On?" ❤️

Hey stalker, here is some actual insider info because you have no f*cking idea what you're talking about or know anything about this band. Turnstile will be recording a new album with Will Yip and the Madden brothers. Those producers and also Nick long (who co-wrote a bunch of the new blink record, MGK, Mod sun) are building a studio/collective in Los angelesbi...butffo. You know nothing about the inner workings of this band so please disappear now. The only stalker is you Turnstile Inside Information Boy - Bud Fox wannabe. LOL @ you cursing at me & so frothed up with rage you typed fu ck ing so the asterisk comes up 😂😂😂 First it's Mike Elizondo now it's Will Yip - fu ck Will Yip, the Madden Brothers, Nick Long & L.A. "Past success does not mean future successful results." You just dropped the name Machine Gun Kelly aka Man Bun Kelly aka Dude Who's Rap Career Got Killed By An Eminem Diss Rap. You lost...take the L & disappear into that MGK world. Herb.

They didn't buy onto that tour you f*cking idiot, Mark is a FAN. They were asked to open it. my cousin is in starcrawler, do you think they paid to open for my chem? NO, the band are fans and asked them to. Just stop.

MGK is doing extremely well...

Hey stalker, here is some actual insider info because you have no f*cking idea what you're talking about or know anything about this band. Turnstile will be recording a new album with Will Yip and the Madden brothers. Those producers and also Nick long (who co-wrote a bunch of the new blink record, MGK, Mod sun) are building a studio/collective in Los angeles. You know nothing about the inner workings of this band so please disappear now. The absolutely positively funniest thing about this comments section is not the Turnstile defenders, them hijacking a comments section for Code Orange (further magnifying their irrelevance) or me triggering the ever lovin f uc k out of these boy band like fans. The funniest thing is all of them are saying in so many words that Turnstile need other people to help them write music so it is more commercially successful. They throw out all these big name producers they don't think Turnstile can top Glow On on their own.

They didn't buy onto that tour you f*cking idiot, Mark is a FAN. They were asked to open it. my cousin is in starcrawler, do you think they paid to open for my chem? NO, the band are fans and asked them to. Just stop Nah you stop. So what Mark is a fan? Mark is a fan of many bands. He didn't ask them to play. Fu ck your cousin & his band Starcrawler & no MCR didn't ask them to play & so what if they did? We're talking TURNSTILE dumba ss.

MGK is doing extremely well... No he's not he's a propped up wannabe Billy Idol cum born again pop punker. He's doing what he's doing now cuz Eminem killed his rap career with a diss rap Eminem wrote in fifteen minutes tops.

anonymous 35 minutes ago LOL to all the pittsburgh kids defending Code Orange....probably that loser AJ in all these comments. Sir, this is a Turnstile thread.

Dude's cousin here. Please leave me out of this.

New Turnstile record brought to you by Will Yip and Pfizer. 15% of sales will go directly to standing with Ukraine.

Don't get me wrong, I think your schtick is hilarious. But if not for his success, then why would they shell out $$$ for him? And yes, they are listed in his wiki discography. I want you to do better next time. >>> So they paid him to not go Platinum or even Gold & to lose three bought Grammys. Yeah they're in his discography so what? He was a knob turner. Dude wrote/did zilch for Glow On, Brady did. Name on a record don't mean s hit all the time. I love your Ultimate Turnstile Dickrider schtick where you tell me in so many words they can't write music which will sell more without big name producers holding their hands & wiping their noses & tushies like the millenial manbabies they are. Nirvana: Writes 100% of Nevermind, album goes Diamond (10M units sold) without internet, social media or even email. Turnstile: Needs big name producer/s so their next album goes Gold or Platinum in the age of Tik Tok & YouTube 😂

Zelensky aka Ukrainian Mr. Bean here. If getting paid is the sole measure of a man's success then I'm more successful than all of these broke bitches. f*ck you, pay me.

MGK's most recent album sold 95k first week and has since gone platinum. Eminem really "destroyed him" I think he needs to call Brady so the next one goes diamond.

Notes about the Turnstile insider: 1. Dude is a stalker. SELF-PROJECTION 2. Dude is a sex offender. MORE SELF-PROJECTION 3. Turnstile should get a restraining order before he Dimebag's them. THEY TRIED THAT WITH BRADY EBERT & FAILED 4. Dude is a tweeker. He's been typing non-stop for 23 hours. NOPE 5. Dude is talking to himself. Total amphetamine psychosis. DOPE 6. Dude sucks so much that I now want a new Zulu post. YOU MENTIONED ZULU YOU'RE DISQUALIFIED FROM COMMENTING HERE

Mr Bean here, who wants their pussy eaten

You definitely did not do better that time

MGK's most recent album sold 95k first week and has since gone platinum. Eminem really "destroyed him" I think he needs to call Brady so the next one goes diamond. OOOOH WOW PLATINUM. Eminem's worst selling albums did better. Ya know what Eminem said in Killshot. Machine Gun Kelly: Headlines Quicken Loans Arena in downtown Cleveland, half full tops & I'm being VERY kind. Shit probably does 35% tops. Eminem headlining there: Would sell out in minutes. Say MGK outdrew Em there well I should hope so considering Cleveland is MGK'S HOMETOWN. Besides that Eminem would beat the brakes off MGK in any random parking lot East or West Side.

You definitely did not do better that time That all you got? You are a boy band fan with a boy band mentality. Who's the next/third producer for Turnstile's next album? I need a laugh.

One of the random girls that one of the members of TURNSTILE banged on tour is in these comments mad AF loooool. Go take a nap, no one is listening to you sweetheart.

Imagine your life's goal is to try and convince 14 people in a comments section that a band you hate isn't popular when all the hard evidence is there that they are. What a life

Can we boost this to at least 300 comments? - lurk

Imagine your life's goal is to try and convince 14 people in a comments section that a band you hate isn't popular when all the hard evidence is there that they are. What a life Never said they weren't popular doofus who's all 14 commenters, I said they're not gonna blow up to be The Next Big Thing like their machine & the bloated music industry desperately wants them to be. Just because lotsa 21-35 year olds 90% of which have zero clue about hardcore punk or metal like em doesn't mean they'll be Nirvana 2 or even Pearl Jam 2. I know the late 20s early 30s manboys dressed like 1995 grunge teens so desperately want to be PJ2 dressed like that but well...you actually have to write music yourself like PJ did not have a big name producer hold your hand.

Not everyone is going to be Nirvana or pearl jam...who cares.

More goal post moving. Now it's "I'm not saying they're not popular, they're just not the next pearl jam or nirvana!" LOL So, were you like a jr agent who tried to pick them early on? Jr manager at a big company? Jr A&R scout type and they blew you off?

JFC

Hi we're Turnstile. We began as a side project of members of Trapped Under Ice who we killed when we became a full time band. TUI vocalist Justice Tripp doesn't fault us for going full-time but he is privately salty about it & he gives off vibes which make us not want to take his longrunning current band Angel Dust on tour with us besides that he might be embarrassed about opening for us, even resentful considering no TUI no Turnstile & no Turnstile no Angel Dust. Also he looks like a tweaker in an old episode of COPS shot in Multnomah County Oregon aka Portland. Each album we put out is softer than the next because soft sells. If Time & Space was Scot Tissue and Glow On was Cottonelle the next album "Turnstile Luv Connection" produced by Mike Elizondo, Will Yip, Steve Albini, Butch Vig & Rick Rubin will be Charmin & btw a song from TLC will appear in a Charmin commercial & Charmin's hooking us up with a lifetime supply for each member of Turnstile.

Turnstiles manager also has a variety of commercials he is cutting checks for, not that a song placement works the other way around.

More goal post moving. Now it's "I'm not saying they're not popular, they're just not the next pearl jam or nirvana!" LOL So, were you like a jr agent who tried to pick them early on? Jr manager at a big company? Jr A&R scout type and they blew you off I'm not moving any goal posts you moron. I don't work in the music industry. Take their dicks out of your mouth. They won't be the next Nirvana, Pearl Jam or whatever big fu ckin band YOU PERSONALLY want them to be - keep crying about it. You are the biggest asskisser & guess what? I don't hate or even dislike Turnstile I just love riling up idiots like you who act like cult members - even K Pop fans know when to chill. I get it you see your own success or promise of success in them. You want to open for them, be as big as them or you want your pal's band to. That's a nice dream. Shut yer yapper & I'll stop posting.

Not everyone is going to be Nirvana or pearl jam...who cares. You Turnstile cultists care.

Let's have some fun: I hit the lottery & take a lump sum of 10M after taxes. I start a band & we buy full gear plus a tourbus What could we buy with the remainder of that 10M?

The insider wants to molest Turnstile.

More important code orange sucks

Band sells out as a headliner in 3000 capacity venues. Lets just do the math on merch alone. Let us know your thoughts insider.

"I'm not moving any goal posts you moron." Every new story you do. "I don't work in the music industry." I am, which is how I know you're always wrong. "Take their dicks out of your mouth." Don't even like the band. "They won't be the next Nirvana, Pearl Jam or whatever big fu ckin band YOU PERSONALLY want them to be - keep crying about it." No one's claiming they will. "You are the biggest asskisser & guess what? I don't hate or even dislike Turnstile I just love riling up idiots like you who act like cult members - even K Pop fans know when to chill." You're the obsessed one. "I get it you see your own success or promise of success in them. You want to open for them, be as big as them or you want your pal's band to. That's a nice dream." Not at all, I just use logic, common sense and facts and figures, live on planet earth and so on.

^mic drop. conversation over.

"anonymous 5 seconds ago ^mic drop. conversation over." He just said "no you're wrong lol" That's not a mic drop, especially if you're defending mediocre chodes who buy their fame like Turnstile. As soon as the money runs out, another entity cashes in on their blackmail material and buys them off their current manager and does NOTHING with them, or they get falsely accused of "rape" but it sticks, it's over for them. They don't have the advanced industry chops to last...dozens of bands do what they do 10x better. Sorry man...get into them all you want but their days are numbered.

Band sells out as a headliner in 3000 capacity venues. Lets just do the math on merch alone. Let us know your thoughts insider. 'Not an insider dipshit. Big f*cking deal when oldass BAD RELIGION sells out 3000 capacity venues. TONS of bands do that all the time. What does merch have to do with anything? Turnstile are not & never will be an arena or stadium headliner no matter how many arena & stadium tours, late night tv talk shows & Grammy nominations James Vitalo & Fred Zahedinia buy them. They are NOTHING without those two & Brady Ebert.

They don't have the advanced industry chops to last...dozens of bands do what they do 10x better. Sorry man...get into them all you want but their days are numbered >>> Bottom line is they don't have Brady Ebert anymore & that's a loss. Anyone who replaces him is a downgrade. All these people saying Greg will write music GTFOH. No way is Turnstile's management taking a chance on him an unknown quantity. Whoever says Brendan will write all the music riddle me this: if he's such a good songwriter how come Brady wrote most of Glow On? Spare me TUI - we're not talking TUI.

Big f*cking deal when oldass BAD RELIGION sells out 3000 capacity venues. TONS of bands do that all the time I can't believe I wasted around 3 years of my life thinking Bad Religion was great

Bad Religion is great & a new fan replaced your sorry a ss. Turnstile sucks. All you people fawning over them obviously got into hardcore the year they formed (2010) or later. If you didn't you have amnesia. When the vocalist for 311 says Turnstile is his favorite current band & people who don't know each other say they sound like 311 then they sound like 311, period, end of story, case closed & LOL @ Turnstile for not publicly acknowledging him saying they're his favorite band cuz they know themselves they sound like 311.

Bad Religion is great & a new fan replaced your sorry a ss. Turnstile sucks. ^No problem, mate. Enjoy. I have no idea what Turnstile actually sound like; I only come on here for the inimitable Lambgoat slander. They look like they'd be awful, though. Last punk/hard-core album I bought was Dead in the Dirt - The Blind Hole in 2014, so I'm well out of touch with everything punk and hardcore

Turnstile is co-headlining arenas with Blink 182 this year. That's about as big as you can get. After that, they will be headlining arenas on their own.

One Code Orange superfan in here raging because Turnstile is 5 times bigger band than they will ever be. How many posts you up to now in this thread, dog?

Discounting Brendan's work in TUI, who were one of if not the top Hardcore bands of their class of bands and by the end had gotten into writing insanely catchy hardcore, and acting like that has no bearing on Turnstile's musical output, is retarded. Also they sound more like The Offspring than 311.

for the 100th time, you don't pay to get on late night shows. If this was the case, every rich guy in a bar band would be on kimmel.

"Turnstile are not & never will be an arena or stadium headliner no matter how many arena & stadium tours, late night tv talk shows & Grammy nominations James Vitalo & Fred Zahedinia buy them." So, later this year or next, when they're headlining arenas, are you going post a photo of yourself sucking a horse's dick or something or will you just say it doesn't count, their managers rented the room, or some other small dicked poor excuse?

^ I'm going to link this post when this inevitably happens and wait for this herb to say that the manager bought all the tickets or something.

Turnstile is co-headlining arenas with Blink 182 this year. That's about as big as you can get. After that, they will be headlining arenas on their own. >>> They're not co-headlining arenas with Blink 182 you fu ck ing moron. Co-headlining means you headline some shows and play right under the headline on others & the tour is billed as such. This Blink 182/Turnstile tour is no such thing. Turnstile is opening & they're never headlining arenas on their own they'll get support who draws whatever can get them to a sell out like all their recent tours.

So later this year or next, when they're headlining arenas, are you going post a photo of yourself sucking a horse's dick or something or will you just say it doesn't count, their managers rented the room, or some other small dicked poor excuse? >>> You sure have a fascination with dicks. Not surprising since you wanna suck Turnstile's dicks. "Later this year or next" whatsamatta? They're not big enough to headline arenas now? LOL you giving them time to get it together. I guarantee you if they headline an arena tour it will be with support who will push it a near sellout or sellout where admission will be fan-friendly i.e. shows will cost what a fan would pay for either the headliner or the direct support. And dickriders like you will boast that Turnstile not the entire bill sold out. Btw managers don't inflate draw by renting venues dummy, they just lie about turnout & give away tickets.

I'm going to link this post when this inevitably happens and wait for this herb to say that the manager bought all the tickets or something >> Wait that herb is you. I never accused Turnstile's managenent of buying tickets but I could see it. I think alot of managers buy tickets to push shows to sell out. Say a band books a 20 show tour where 15 shows sell out at 500 paid a night. The other five shows sell 2200 tickets, 300 shy of a sell out. Admission is 25 so the manager floats those five non-sellout venues 7500 - BOOM - "A tour where every show sold out." That 7500 comes out of band pay but the band sees it as a good sacrifice because they can boast-lie that every show sold out. Managers buy their bands onto tours so buying tickets to create fake sellouts isn't unheard of.

Okay so Turnstile aren't selling out tours and if they are it's because of support, they aren't getting massive amounts of listeners and even selling a significant amount of records, they aren't playing huge festivals and drawing huge crowds. What's next Turnstile doesn't exist?

How funny would it be if a new band set up a debut show where they advertised it as $15 admission but got 100 strangers to attend the show for $30 cash each, let in 100 friends & acquaintances for free & made Joe Hardcore & other promoters book them on their fests & key opening slots on their non-fest shows? After that advertise future shows as paid admission but let in everyone for free to give the illusion that 200-300 people pay to get into your hometown shows. You dupe a touring headliner to have you open for them on their next stop in your city, maybe have you accompany them beyond that, you get put on another tour. You get signed.

Okay so Turnstile aren't selling out tours and if they are it's because of support, they aren't getting massive amounts of listeners and even selling a significant amount of records, they aren't playing huge festivals and drawing huge crowds. What's next Turnstile doesn't exist? >> One of their recent tours had Citizen & Ceremony as support while another recent tour of theirs had Snailmail & JPEG Mafia as tour support. Grow a brain if you think these four bands drawed zilch & played these tours for nothing. They created the sold out shows & if Turnstile didn't need them then why were they booked. Hence "support." A headliner doesn't sell out a show without support unless they play alone. Massive amounts of listeners but maybe low five figures to show for it. Significant amount of records but not even Gold or they'd say it. Huge festivals who don't need them. Huge crowds relative to the pathetic turnouts of hardcore shows since I'll say 2013 where 300 paid people is "huge".

Say they got booked to play a fest put on by Kanye West - first line billing. Kanye is hanging out in his PJs one night & looks at the lineup he didn't curate all of. He runs across Turnstile, checks their photo & says who the f*ck are these goofy looking motherfu ck ers? He calls his management & tells them yo kick Turnstile off this fest, they kick Turnstile off the fest. You think the fest takes a big hit? No especially if say Pixies (old legacy band) or Snailmail (newer band) replaces Turnstile. That fest doesn't miss a beat. Furnace Fest would sh it a brick if Turnstile and/or Bane dropped off.

I could totally see a manager buying tickets. If a manager secured a tour sponsor he could get the tour sponsor to buy unsold tickets. Touring bands already do this when they get local bands to sell tickets cuz you know countless bands have "sold" 50 tickets for $20 each where each Mommy & Daddy pitch in $200 or $250 to buy the tickets to make the club think the band sold all 50 tickets. That local pay to player alone could push a show to a sellout.

^^^ I meant a five member band where each member's Mommy & Daddy pitch in $200 each to fake sell 50 tickets for a grand. They see it as an investment in their kids. The band hands out free tickets to their friends & whoever else. List bands you think did and/or do this.

Massive amounts of listeners but maybe low five figures to show for it. Significant amount of records but not even Gold or they'd say it. Huge festivals who don't need them. Huge crowds relative to the pathetic turnouts of hardcore shows since I'll say 2013 where 300 paid people is "huge". ^ "Gold" doesn't mean anything anymore grandpa, people don't buy records. It's like measuring a 2023 movie's success by DVD sales. Huge festivals don't "need" any one particular act, even headliners are interchangeable, but they all sure seem to be booking this band in particular as opposed to any other band, and placing them pretty high on the lineup, which means they have to pay them more. Sure you get some bullshit buy on bands on any festival, but that's at the bottom of the lineup. So what it's all a giant conspiracy? Bookers and festival organizers across the world are all getting together to lose money to the end of what? f*cking with you?

When you think about it a five member band where each member's parents are willing to invest a grand in his "music career" could dupe their way into getting a record deal & tour slots. A big club books your band five times across a year where you fake sell 50 tickets for a grand every show. Next year that club gets you on five national tour stops. You get signed at the beginning of year three. You could say you paid your dues in year one, got elevated year two & signed in year three. All for the low low price of 5G five sets of Mommy & Daddy kicked in a measly grand towards each.

Basically you're say that if Turnstile sells out their headliner it's because they got good support, if Blink 182 sells out an arena it's because them and only them. So does support matter or not?

Gold" doesn't mean anything anymore grandpa, people don't buy records. >>> Yes they do ten year old Tik Toker. Hello? RIAA? Nielsen Soundscan? Uptick in CD sales? EVERY Wiki for a band mentioning if their records went Gold, Platinum, Multi-Platinum. It's like measuring a 2023 movie's success by DVD sales. >> No it's not. A 2023 movie's success is measured by tickets sold you fu ck ing moron. Not the nerd crap available only on Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Video which is artificial cuz people pay for those services not one fu ck ing movie on it.

Basically you're say that if Turnstile sells out their headliner it's because they got good support, if Blink 182 sells out an arena it's because them and only them. So does support matter or not? I'm talking nightclubs & you know that you disingenous ass. STFU that Turnstile is supporting Blink 182 & learn to read dumb ass - Turnstile is opening for Blink 182. Blink 182 could get ANYONE to open & it'd still sell out. LOL @ you coming at me not knowing the difference between an opener & support. Keep playing checkers.

Huge festivals don't "need" any one particular act, even headliners are interchangeable, but they all sure seem to be booking this band in particular as opposed to any other band, and placing them pretty high on the lineup, which means they have to pay them more. Sure you get some bullshit buy on bands on any festival, but that's at the bottom of the lineup. Yeah if Metallica is headlining a festival and drops off the fest will do just as well without them as with them sure, you idiot. Red Hot Chili Peppers, Metallica & Foo Fighters are the top billed bands on a fest, all three drop off, but hey, it'll do the same without them. We can charge the same. New top three Pearl Jam, Faith No More & Philtera will draw as much as them." 😂😂😂 you 🤡

Yo everyone Turnstile & Bane have dropped off Furnace Fest. No replacements. Same price. We can count on you showing up as if they were playing right? You 🤡

New top three Pearl Jam, Faith No More & Philtera will draw as much as them." 😂😂😂 you 🤡 They couldn't outdraw RHCP & Metallica in 1 9 9 3.

Record sales are an ancient relic that only stick around because Nielsen etc has so much money wrapped up in record companies. The idea that 1500 streams is equivalent to 1 CD sale is absurd considering most people don't even listen to any given song on a CD 1500 times. Yeah, movie ticket sales are a great way to measure a movies success, similar to concert ticket sales, and would you look at that Turnstile keep selling them out. You can do whatever mental gymnastics you wanna do with that, you will, but by every metric of success that matters: streaming, show attendance, festival billing is popping off. Hell even record sales they did 18k first week by modern metrics is great. Also if Turnstile are so desperately relying on supports at these shows, show me a single video of a set of theirs from the past 2 years that looks anything less than full. Theres no walk outs. People may be excited to see snail mail or citizen or whatever, but they're coming, and staying for Turnsrile.

I think You know exactly what I mean by headliners being interchangeable and you're either being disingenuous or you're an idiot. A festival that has Metallica/Avenged Sevenfold/ Lamb of God isn't going to draw radically different than a festival that has Tool/Slipknot/Rob Zombie and if one drops they'll just sub in another. It's happened in the past few years. So long as you pick from other headliner level acts. That's what I meant by interchangeable, which I also think you know. The headliners of FF could drop and the festival would be fine, so long as they replaced them with other headline level acts. Bane could drop and be replaced with Have Heart and there'd be no change. Turnstile dropping might be a problem actually because there's no other band that the hardcore scene really likes that has had that level of mainstream buy in. Good luck replacing them with Snail Mail or Citizen though lmao.

If Blink doesn't need openers/support/whatever term you're splitting hairs on why go through the trouble, why not just do a solo headliner? Why get and pay Turnstile in particular if it's just about having a band play before you? Why not grab either a d-level new pop punk band or any of the lower rung When We Were Young bands that would cost significantly less? Why not put any of those bands later in the day of Lollapalooza? You're bending over backwards to find some conspiracy when the Simplest answer is "Turnstile are a value add, they draw additionally and/or make the ticket more valuable" I know you're going to say Turnstile is playing for free, but unless you can provide proof of that I'm assuming you're just pulling it out of your ass.

Ceremony plays 300-capacity rooms on their headline tours and they don't even sell out. But that mad munchkin in here says they actually bring all 4,000 people to the show that Turnstile sold out. What an idiot

^ding ding ding

They look like the gay Fantastic 4. Homie on the right looks like the Thing.

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