NewsJanuary 26, 2023 4:06 AM ET26,656 views

Against Me!’s Laura Jane Grace and Life of Agony’s Mina Caputo get heated over social media post

The two trans women appear to have differing views on what it means to be trans

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Mina Caputo (left) and Laura Jane Grace (right)

It's no secret that the transgender community has come under heavy scrutiny in recent years from just about every conceivable direction politically, socially, and otherwise. This includes people who are transgender themselves as is the case with Life of Agony's Mina Caputo who is herself a trans woman.

Early on Wednesday, January 25, she posted a photo on her personal Instagram of transmasculine people of various sizes and ethnicities posed in white underwear while bleeding freely from the genital area with the words "People Have Periods" above the models. With this, Caputo said the following in the caption:


This sort of gender critical rhetoric has come under fire from large numbers of the transgender community and its allies after being adopted and platformed by highly famous people like author JK Rowling for being transphobic on the basis of not recognizing trans individuals as the gender they identify with regardless of biological sex. Looking at other posts on Caputo's page, this seems to be a stance she is very passionate about. Laura Jane Grace of Against Me!, another trans woman, pushed back against Caputo with her own comments, stating:

What followed, as implied by the numbers of replies, is an argument between Grace and Caputo along with other followers of Caputo's account. Here's the whole back-and-forth between the two artists starting with Caputo's reply to Grace's comments:


The rest of the comments are mostly between Caputo's followers and Grace. Clearly this is a very hot topic for many, not the least of which actual trans people, and no matter the reason it's unfortunate to see two fellow artists and friends verbally spar publicly like this. We hope they can reconcile and come to an understanding on their own terms.

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anonymous 1/26/2023 2:03:01 AM

Comsments section, don't let me down

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:03:51 AM

Comments * So triggered i couldn't type one handed. Aswell as usual

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:32:01 AM

f*ck, I think people should be able to have the freedom to be whatever they want, but that doesn't mean you get to tell others what to believe. What happened to being able to disagree with others without having to disown them?

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:33:17 AM

Also, rick toccccchhhheeeeettttt is a giant man period

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:47:25 AM

Literally wtf are they actually arguing over?

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:48:31 AM

Most right wingers would have sex with transs in private, and yet trash them in public. The confusing lives of closeted hypocrites…

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:52:29 AM

If I had a dollar for every gender, I would have 2 dollars.

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:52:54 AM

41%

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:57:35 AM

Cuckservatives on lambgoat are gonna beat off while rage typing in this comment section

Bortslob 1/26/2023 3:07:58 AM

They should scissor each other

anonymous 1/26/2023 3:16:33 AM

This will definitely get resolved here by the finest of minds.

simon_belmont 1/26/2023 3:23:16 AM

The river runs red and I think I'm dying

anonymous 1/26/2023 3:23:50 AM

"This sort of gender critical rhetoric" It's science. Don't deny biology and dismiss it as being a rhetoric

anonymous 1/26/2023 3:27:43 AM

Conservative rage at other people's sex life coming in 3….2….1

anonymous 1/26/2023 3:39:26 AM

I posted a pic the same day looking down at my skid marked undies around my ankles and not one person cared to comment. I still have them on.

anonymous 1/26/2023 4:03:47 AM

That one liberal here can't wait to argue with "conservatives." Instead, that liberal should finish high school and/or apply for more welfare.

anonymous 1/26/2023 4:17:00 AM

Thank God Trump is back on Instagram. Hopefully he weighs in on this.

anonymous 1/26/2023 4:41:47 AM

They both look like Zelda from 'Pet Sematery'.

anonymous 1/26/2023 4:59:28 AM

Everything is so f*cking stupid. I hope the sun explodes soon.

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:14:59 AM

Marty from Zao here. They should kiss and make up. I love seeing chicks with Adam's apples go at it.

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:20:58 AM

Ugly creatures

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:21:07 AM

Goddamn who cares

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:51:31 AM

Ever notice most trans women do not finish the job? Hot take but I don't believe this is due to cost or the therapy required. I believe the dick envy is hardwired into those born biological males. To sum this up I don't care what you want to be but I definitely respect the opinion of those who go 100% more than the people trying to maximize on the "best" of both worlds.

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:55:10 AM

"if it doesnt affect you,it doesnt exist." *Morning Again*

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:00:19 AM

see mina's insane comments on john joseph conspiracy theory posts on IG. that will tell you all you need to know about her intellectual capacity. side note: life of agony has always been bad. zero tracks.

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:05:37 AM

Caputo out here spitting facts… science based, anatomically correct, when you die they will check your bone structure and prove feeling don't matter, proven data…

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:06:40 AM

Woke idiot here. I stand with the current thing. I also think Jeffrey Epstein was a cool dude.

PoultryInMotion 1/26/2023 6:10:00 AM

Where's Velma?

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:23:47 AM

You'll never see Mina at drag queen story time because she's not a leftist pedophile.

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:24:17 AM

"Conservative rage at other people's sex life coming in 3….2….1" Whose raging? Weby Is a lib who brought this to everyone's attention.. two transs arguing publicly no one would have even heard about.. Pure gaslighting with nothin to say, they/them poster

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:33:51 AM

They should stop being bitches and fight

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:36:52 AM

"If I had a dollar for every gender, I would have 2 dollars." L-O-f*cking-Ld.

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:38:15 AM

" Woke idiot here. I stand with the current thing. I also think Jeffrey Epstein was a cool dude." I detest Jeffery Epstein and STILL L-O-f*cking-Ld Even harder than the previous post.

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:41:53 AM

Can we get both of the on Powerslap to settle this beef?

Better_than_You 1/26/2023 6:55:21 AM

Two ugly dorky dudes arguing about something that isn't real. Amazing!

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:55:44 AM

Gosh, I always feel the same way when people attack me just because I identify as a flat earther. Like, why people think reality should be included in the conversation is beyond me! Leave all your proof, common sense, and whatever "biology" means at the door, it's about how I feel, mmkay?

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:57:30 AM

Seems the only people riled up about this are the closeted faction of all conservatives. Funny how that happens. It's fun to watch you knuckledraggers squirm. You'll all be forgotten when you're dead, and your history will be erased by time and sensibility.

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:07:50 AM

This is like calling one pizza place then confrence calling another pizza place and letting them battle it out. It's funny the narative is getting this warped tho.

PhilPhantom 1/26/2023 7:38:21 AM

Well they obviously have two different things going on. I hope they can sort it out and get back to what's important: whatever that is.

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:39:34 AM

I will die or go to jail for the freedom to only hear things I already agree with.

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:41:46 AM

Mina Caputo kinda based

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:50:27 AM

Can we get some pronouns in the chat so everyone feels comfortable??

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:05:02 AM

Trump and Desantis live in the closet.

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:07:00 AM

Can't wait till all your J6 "brothers and sisters" rot in a cell for the next 20 years.

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:07:20 AM

a face like Slimmer lolol. Oofff

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:15:00 AM

John Joesph here. Yo I banged Mina in the ass pussy once then got my toes sucked

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:24:26 AM

This is just two ex lovers arguing, I saw them play a show together when they were dating in Philly years ago

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:26:23 AM

^ nailed it.

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:30:03 AM

Todd Jones here. You will never be a woman

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:42:18 AM

GenderFlip

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:45:49 AM

both cock suckers, remember guys, it's just your GF's cock.

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:55:24 AM

This is just two ex lovers arguing, I saw them play a show together when they were dating in Philly years ago ^^^^^^ Were they playing bass?

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:57:22 AM

N-2-deep, in man ass pussy.

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:14:00 AM

Tom Gaybel

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:15:09 AM

Against me clears the extremely low bar of having never made a butt rock album or been friends with john joseph. Well parts of new wave and white crosses but LOA sounds like a local single dad version of shinedown now

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:33:14 AM

I cant wait to vote for Donald Trump in 2024

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:40:47 AM

^ good for you! it'll be fun to watch him lose again.

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:53:20 AM

Proof of what a shithole country the USA has become. Everyone walks around daily looking for reasons to be offended. If you have your period or are pregnant, sorry delusional American idiot, you are NOT a man nor male. You might identify as one, claim to be one, whatever the f*ck you say to make yourself feel better - but you are not a man or male. If you can't have a period or get pregnant but still have a pussy between your legs, same answer.

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:55:29 AM

I heard through the grapevine that Fat Pat is a woman due to his breasts and lack of a dick or balls (though some say it's simply because he's too fat to see what's down there).

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:57:14 AM

Downfall of Murica What cuckmericans will say?

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:08:22 AM

Still waiting for any liberal to move to Venezuela.

Better_than_You 1/26/2023 10:12:25 AM

I come to this site to remind myself how much I want this entire planet to burn. I hope Russia launches nukes.

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:14:23 AM

...maybe f*cking CALL or TEXT each other instead of airing this shit all over the internet? "I considered you a friend etc etc" yet won't log the f*ck off for five minutes and make a phone call to the person. Terminally online. Even if these dopes were arguing about pizza or video games just hash it out offline.

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:37:10 AM

You know at a glance, Keith looks kinda cute in that pic. And he's right even if he is a douche about it.

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:38:36 AM

trans porn enjoyers are excited. To each their own. I don't judge

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:39:06 AM

is hermaphrodite still a thing?

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:43:17 AM

Recent Pantera news chat room >

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:52:50 AM

Dave Chappelle is gonna make his next stand-up special entirely about this.

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:57:51 AM

^ good for you! it'll be fun to watch him lose again. It absolutely will be! Donald Trump is hilarious. TRUMP 2024

anonymous 1/26/2023 10:59:48 AM

Rodent Ron Desantis is 5'8, wears white boots, and has no juice

anonymous 1/26/2023 11:00:27 AM

newsflash: LoA & Against Me! are unlistenable music for losers

anonymous 1/26/2023 11:04:05 AM

My cousin could truly receive money farting in their spare time on their laptop. their best friend had been doing this 4 only about 12 months and by now cleared the debt farting in their mini mansion and bought a great Car to fart in. That is what we do.

anonymous 1/26/2023 11:10:02 AM

Cute photo choice hahaha

anonymous 1/26/2023 11:20:24 AM

2 grown ass men playing dress up

anonymous 1/26/2023 11:33:23 AM

Adam 22 needs to have them on No Jumper for a debate followed by a f*ck session. Do it for the culture

anonymous 1/26/2023 11:34:31 AM

What is the biggest crime committed by transvestites? Male fraud

anonymous 1/26/2023 11:40:48 AM

Shout out to the homophobic "liberal" who won't shut up.

anonymous 1/26/2023 11:49:48 AM

FYI, these two valedictorians are still going at it right now.

Bortslob 1/26/2023 11:50:15 AM

Two men arguing who is more of a woman. 2023 in a nutshell, thanks a lot Biden

anonymous 1/26/2023 12:17:34 PM

the singer of life agony is now a wannabe girl? gross... delete.

anonymous 1/26/2023 12:26:31 PM

If you can't commit to getting your dick cut off, you're just playing dress up.

anonymous 1/26/2023 12:36:32 PM

How would these 2 dudes know what it's like being a woman?

anonymous 1/26/2023 12:52:32 PM

This is what all guys into slam will eventually evolve into

anonymous 1/26/2023 1:17:11 PM

"This sort of gender critical rhetoric" This is probably the dumbest thing I've read in a while. This isn't rhetoric, this is biology u f***ing dweebs. Lol

anonymous 1/26/2023 1:17:52 PM

And btw Mina is right.

anonymous 1/26/2023 1:19:05 PM

Laura is California sober

anonymous 1/26/2023 1:27:55 PM

Both white, don't care. Stop drowning out BIPOC voices

anonymous 1/26/2023 1:30:45 PM

Like what I like or die

Inkongudunk 1/26/2023 1:36:36 PM

Peak misogyny.

VodkaVeins 1/26/2023 1:59:41 PM

Both y'alls music sucks.

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:00:50 PM

#sendthethread

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:02:29 PM

MULTIPLE TRIGGERS, READER DISCRETION ADVISED

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:17:27 PM

Society was lost when it started catering to all these dipshits. Like cut your dick off if you want but why does it have to be front page news

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:22:03 PM

Mina is right.

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:27:07 PM

Don't be against me for my life of agony.

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:35:57 PM

Society was lost when it started catering to all these dipshits. Like cut your dick off if you want but why does it have to be front page news "Dick cuts off man" now THATS news!!!!

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:36:54 PM

Does Mina have a vagina now? Would if so. Probably would if she still had a wiener too.

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:39:13 PM

Yakov Smirnoff here, in my country dick cuts off you. What a country!

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:39:22 PM

Jazz Jennings is pretty cute too

anonymous 1/26/2023 2:49:45 PM

^ More of a Daisy taylor fan myself

anonymous 1/26/2023 3:18:20 PM

Liberals are obsessed with cutting off dicks. It's why they like Game of Thrones so much.

anonymous 1/26/2023 3:37:01 PM

I wonder what Elliot Page thinks about this:

anonymous 1/26/2023 3:38:11 PM

I wonder what Ru Paul thinks of all this

anonymous 1/26/2023 4:03:25 PM

Guess I haven't seen that lol. Just knew of her cause of the video of her strutting in a bikini

anonymous 1/26/2023 4:04:28 PM

him^

anonymous 1/26/2023 4:40:28 PM

Life Of Agony. Whatever happened there?

anonymous 1/26/2023 4:52:59 PM

Thanks

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:22:30 PM

Two fairies arguing over who's online fairytale is more "real". Fun fact, they both were socially engineered to believe this trans thing would make them happier and it most certainly hasn't. Saddest part is Tom having to bullshit his kid for the rest of his/her life that his deranged beliefs have merit.

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:27:37 PM

None of this will matter once Mike Goo transitions.

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:34:18 PM

Toms ex RAN with the kid years ago

anonymous 1/26/2023 5:53:54 PM

Goo me once, shame on me. Goo me twice, shame on you.

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:34:36 PM

Sweet, more arguing about chicks being 'herms' and dudes being 'shims' - thanks Biden.

rick_tocchet 1/26/2023 6:39:08 PM

anonymous 13 hours ago Everything is so f*cking stupid. I hope the sun explodes soon.

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:47:51 PM

This shit wouldn't happen under Trump. Build the wall.

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:48:19 PM

Get these two ladies to talk it out on the van flip podcast

anonymous 1/26/2023 6:55:42 PM

^I pray for a meteor daily.

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:00:35 PM

gay bands

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:04:51 PM

Two gay dudes cosplaying as women on their period. Who gives a shit.

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:12:14 PM

^ Mike Goo gives a shit.

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:18:00 PM

"I'm more trans than you are!!!!"

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:29:48 PM

They should compare penis size to claim true victory.

anonymous 1/26/2023 7:30:19 PM

^nailed it

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:14:52 PM

Wait, so one side is arguing that mtf trans people can have periods, and one side is arguing they can not? How could anyone side with the person who sides that they can?? Team Kieth all the way, and this makes me feel like she earned the name Mina, by being real about who she is. Shit is crazy stupid nowadays. I'll buy into some trans shit if they can be real about the situation and admit they know what's up. Anyone not on Minas side is stupid as f*ck

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:42:17 PM

It's a shame these two dudes can't get along. Who are they again?

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:52:15 PM

I was friends with Dick Levine back in the day. We were both hard pressed for cash back then and he came to me one day and said he had a great new way to make money, so I asked him what it was. "Prostitution!" He said proudly. I said "you're f*cking random men? My God..." The next day he calls me up and said breakfast was on him because he had a good night turning tricks the night before, so I agreed to meet him. We ate like kings and when the tab came I said "Are you sure you can afford this?" He assured me he could because he had made four hundred and fifty dollars and five cents last night. I asked who the hell gave him the five cents. "Every one of them!" he said.

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:53:38 PM

I hope Matt Walsh covers this. Shit is hilarious.

anonymous 1/26/2023 8:56:12 PM

#wheresthebeef

rick_tocchet 1/26/2023 9:23:03 PM

Is c*ck docking still a thing? The frat boys and I used to do it all the time Thursday nights. Good times with the br0z.

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:39:55 PM

I demand respect for changing my gender

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:41:11 PM

One sheetrock laborer argues with another sheetrock laborer

anonymous 1/26/2023 9:50:07 PM

What's joe hardcores take on this?

anonymous 1/27/2023 12:21:11 AM

Can they please f*ck each other to settle this. Whoever squirts a hot load first loses.

anonymous 1/27/2023 3:36:45 AM

Mx Goo

anonymous 1/27/2023 5:26:20 AM

They should play tummy sticks and decide a winner that way.

anonymous 1/27/2023 6:51:31 AM

anonymous 11 hours ago ^I pray for a "meat"eor daily. Dokken cox.

anonymous 1/27/2023 7:57:14 AM

Life of Agony f*cking rules. Against Me has always been cringey. My opinion of each bands musical output extends to this debate. Tom/Laura got eviscerated which isn't a shock whatsoever.

anonymous 1/27/2023 9:59:43 AM

Has anyone sent this to them yet? Have a Goo*d day!

lake_flaccid 1/27/2023 10:21:00 AM

woof *keeps scrolling

anonymous 1/27/2023 3:48:43 PM

How many times a day do these two say they phrase "gaslighting"

anonymous 1/29/2023 10:19:37 AM

Tyranny without the y

anonymous 2/2/2023 7:18:12 AM

Brave of Lambgoat to take absolutely no stance 😂

anonymous 44 days ago

Mina has been detransitioning back to Keith lately. At least unlike most internalized transphobes, Mina has the integrity and sensibility to do that to fit the anti-trans views he eventually embraced.




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