Tim has better push presses, better signature moves (metalcore forward closed fist throw; when he did it in confined video was pinnacle of mid 00s), better stage presence, better breakdowns, beyond better drumming and double bass kicks, better/more fans, and art work lol no. shadows are security and oceans mops the floor with any zao paint by numbers cover. smack yourself and take a lap rookie
Tim has better push presses, better signature moves (metalcore forward closed fist throw; when he did it in confined video was pinnacle of mid 00s), better stage presence, better breakdowns, beyond better drumming and double bass kicks, better/more fans, and art work lol no. shadows are security and oceans mops the floor with any zao paint by numbers cover. smack yourself and take a lap rookie