NewsJuly 18, 2023 8:47 PM ET8,691 views

Rammstein's legal victory says Der Spiegel can't publish articles on sexual misconduct allegations

Till Lindemann

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Rammstein's lead singer Till Lindemann is caught in a legal battle following allegations of sexual misconduct during their ongoing tour. However, Lindemann's legal team recently won a temporary ruling that prevents German outlet Der Spigel (referred to as 'SPIEGEL' in the statement below) from publishing articles on the allegations amid ongoing investigation.

The translated statement from Lindemann's lawyer reads:

On the cover of its edition dated June 10, 2023 (Issue No. 24/2023), SPIEGEL reported under the headline "Twilight of the Gods" about allegations made by various women. The article was also published online under the title "Sex, Power, Alcohol - What the young women from Row Zero report" in the SPIEGEL+ subscription section. 

By interim injunction of the Hamburg Regional Court dated July 14, 2023, SPIEGEL has now been prohibited from suggesting that Till Lindemann drugged or had women drugged with knockout drops/drugs/alcohol during concerts of the group "Rammstein" to enable him to perform sexual acts on the women. In the grounds of the decision, the Hamburg Regional Court states that there is a lack of the necessary minimum evidence for this serious suspicion.

Specifically, it states: "None of the statements of the witnesses, who have made their statements under oath or to the authors of the applicant (cf. affidavits of the authors of the applicant ...), give rise to the suspicion that the applicant drugged or had women drugged with knockout drops/alcohol/drugs at concerts to enable him to perform sexual acts on the women." 

The reference to the insufficient affidavits of the alleged witnesses is particularly relevant because SPIEGEL based its reporting prominently on alleged conversations with a dozen women and also on the signing of several affidavits. With the decision of the Hamburg Regional Court, the most serious allegation made in the contested SPIEGEL article has been legally prohibited.

In addition, SPIEGEL has been prohibited from making two false factual claims. The court's injunction covers 18 partially long passages of the article, which are reproduced in detail on 6 pages of the interim injunction. 

The decision of the Hamburg Regional Court is exemplary of a suspicion reporting on the "MeToo" topic that has completely gone off track in recent times. Aware that reporting on this topic ensures high sales and online views, the media increasingly ignore the guidelines established by the case law for suspicion reporting. Again and again, serious allegations are reported even though only one-sided statements are available and criminal investigations have not been initiated or are still at an early stage. This leads to massive pre-judgements and violations of the presumption of innocence as provided by the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). 

To the extent that the suspicion prohibited to SPIEGEL has also been raised by other media, we will take legal action against them as well.


The singer continues to deny the allegations, while two more women have anonymously come forward with accusations against Lindemann and Rammstein keyboardist Christian "Flake" Lorenz as reported in an article here. The same outlet, Deutsche Welle, is also reporting on petitions and protests against the band at their concerts. 

 

UPDATE: An earlier version of this article mistakenly reported the media outlet as the UK outlet The Mirror. The media outlet is being referred to is instead German outlet Der Spiegel, which translates in English to "The Mirror."

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anonymous 7/18/2023 6:28:14 PM

Should have stayed die hard villains

rick____tocchet 7/18/2023 7:21:11 PM

https://youtu.be/SuIOQTtiHpk

anonymous 7/18/2023 7:21:20 PM

GOOstein

anonymous 7/18/2023 7:27:41 PM

See what happens when you have snacks and water available?

anonymous 7/18/2023 7:50:16 PM

But we can mwhahaha

anonymous 7/18/2023 8:01:13 PM

Thots: Patrolled

anonymous 7/18/2023 10:16:44 PM

Spiegel is a GERMAN magazine. It translates to mirror in English, but actually has nothing to do with the UK mirror.

anonymous 7/18/2023 11:41:23 PM

Spiegoo

anonymous 7/19/2023 1:18:57 AM

And that's when I pulled her backstage and said....suck Der spiegel

anonymous 7/19/2023 4:53:57 AM

Did the cops find the hostel they run yet?

anonymous 7/19/2023 6:04:36 AM

Art imitating life or life imitating art? Either way the guy is a sicko. At the worst a rapist, at the least a groomer.

anonymous 7/19/2023 6:33:08 AM

They had 150 protestors at their belongings show lead by some bald head girl. what a joke.

anonymous 7/19/2023 7:20:30 AM

There's a good reason why women werent allowed to be legal witnesses

anonymous 7/19/2023 7:36:44 AM

^^^^^^ THIS!!!! This site really does suck.

Bortslob 7/19/2023 8:13:24 AM

It's just like when Twitter and Facebook censored the hunter Biden laptop story and rigged the 2020 election

anonymous 7/19/2023 8:57:25 AM

^ *Bortslob 18 minutes ago It's just like when Twitter and Facebook censored the hunter Biden laptop story and rigged the 2020 election* It's PAINFUL to acknowledge your point because it's a dumb comparison, but selective censorship is bullshit no matter what. These guys don't even make their guidelines clear, not that they need to. You can see what they stand for by what they delete or don't. If LG is Incel-friendly that means ALL the Incel rhetoric, not just the hate against women in metal and hardcore. Can't peddle influence because Lambgoat staff hates women but thinks they have moral authority elsewhere. Search "allegations", LG is straight up Pro-Incel. Yesterday they were posting links to a Reddit profile created THAT DAY day and calling it "news. About a death in the scene. Somebody DIED, and they're f*cking around with trolls on Reddit? This site is not run by good dudes.

anonymous 7/19/2023 9:06:00 AM

^ never was.

easyhateoven 7/19/2023 9:06:56 AM

goo hast

anonymous 7/19/2023 9:19:09 AM

Chad Diamond Esquire here, this is another great victory against the slanderous accusations facing Germany's most beloved celebrities who bravely starred in Grandma's Boy and had the courage to continue being in the public eye afterwards. If you have an allegation against you, or if the majority of your wardrobe is black leather, and ESPECIALLY if you plan to steal all the gold from the NY Federal reserve using dump trucks- give me a call today!! Yippie Kai Yay!!!

anonymous 7/19/2023 10:15:46 AM

^ copy/paste all that to quote f*cking Mighty Mouse and say *gay*? Not even "I censor you mother with a ball gag when I f*ck her backstage at Rammstein Love, Chad Diamond" Sick burn dude.

anonymous 7/19/2023 12:35:51 PM

I can't believe people are crying about being prevented from making f*cked up comments about a person dying or having a life altering mother vehicle wreck. You motherf*ckers need to get your God damn head checked.

anonymous 7/19/2023 2:36:20 PM

^ nobody's crying, they're calling bullshit. The virtuous hand-wringing and handkerchief waving here falls flat when this site was posting lies from fake Reddit profiles as news about a dead man YESTERDAY as clickbait. It's a lil tricky to get ethical when your argument is "coma, bad, some death, bad (if we say so) r@pe, fine" This is just f*cking bush league. Open the comments and let in the bad with the good on everything, or post your rules and apply them consistently. Or don't, this site sucks worse every day. They block/edit/delete anyone with anything relevant, funny, or 'wrong' to say. First 50 YOTK comments looked like a Christian youth camp wrote them. NOBODY COMES TO LAMBGOAT TO SEE NICE.

anonymous 7/19/2023 2:58:34 PM

Delete this site. All of the right are closet homos.

anonymous 7/19/2023 6:17:39 PM

"^ nobody's crying, they're calling bullshit. The " virtuous hand-wringing and handkerchief waving here falls flat when this site was posting lies from fake Reddit profiles as news about a dead man YESTERDAY as clickbait. It's a lil" Why don't you cry about it some more

anonymous 7/19/2023 7:26:43 PM

Surely Til understands now that his fetish for German shit porn is not worth the millions in legal fees.




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