News•October 11, 2013 11:26 AM ET•7,943 views

Black Flag founder Greg Ginn loses lawsuit

Black Flag founder Greg Ginn has apparently lost his lawsuit against FLAG (which features other ex-Black Flag members) and company. Among Ginn's complaints was that FLAG had been using the Black Flag name and logo in a "misleading way." According to the FLAG camp, a judge came to the following conclusions:

(1) the court found that SST had no rights in the trademarks; (2) Ginn seemed to have no individual rights in the Black Flag trademarks; (3) even if either had had any rights in those marks, they had abandoned those rights through a failure to police the mark for nearly 30 years; (4) the defendants' claim that the Black Flag assets were owned by a statutory partnership comprised of various former band members – even if these members only consisted of Henry and Ginn, based on (a) accepting Ginn's argument that he never quit and given that there is no evidence or allegation that Henry ever quit – has merit; (5) that even if the plaintiffs had some trademark claim in the marks, there was no likelihood of consumer confusion between Black Flag and Flag given the ample press coverage over the dispute; and (6) the trademark application and registration that Henry and Keith made was done in good faith (e.g. not fraudulently) – and is thus not necessarily subject to cancellation – given that they understood their actions to have been done on the part of the Black Flag partnership (see No. 4, above).

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anonymous 10/11/2013 8:28:18 AM

First. Gay.

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anonymous 10/11/2013 8:30:34 AM

go back to your parents bastufft

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anonymous 10/11/2013 8:31:08 AM

Finally. fck Greg Ginn. The new Black Flag songs suck.

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brokenhero 10/11/2013 8:31:34 AM

fck black flag and everyone in it. they arent that good

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anonymous 10/11/2013 8:56:12 AM

Greg Ginn is a flaming homosexual

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anonymous 10/11/2013 9:21:37 AM

Islander is stoked.

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AnalButt 10/11/2013 9:23:17 AM

What a gaywad

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anonymous 10/11/2013 9:25:07 AM

farts

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anonymous 10/11/2013 9:33:24 AM

anonymous10 minutes ago Islander is stoked. permalink | report abuse I'm Islander...let it go trolls...one thread of attention for you idiots was enough.

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brokenhero 10/11/2013 9:35:46 AM

get cast away with the quickness

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anonymous 10/11/2013 10:03:26 AM

I've been to an island. A deserted one. Wilson and I are here now.

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RickRock 10/11/2013 10:20:16 AM

Court-appointed ROFLPWN.

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anonymous 10/11/2013 10:28:33 AM

no more tv parties for greg...

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MeatyD 10/11/2013 12:04:17 PM

Should have hired Wade Golden

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anonymous 10/11/2013 12:18:11 PM

Take out the L from FLAG, and it will say what Greg Ginn is

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Mitt__Romney 10/11/2013 12:25:33 PM

This dude will commit suicide because of this.

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anonymous 10/11/2013 12:37:37 PM

Wait.. What does it spell if you take the L out? I'm in Hatebreed and never learned to read.

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anonymous 10/11/2013 2:52:26 PM

Death penalty case, please.

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anonymous 10/11/2013 3:04:55 PM

the guy who runs this website is the Greg ginn of hardcore/metal blogs

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anonymous 10/11/2013 7:40:18 PM

Wade golden blows micheal keanne and poop

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anonymous 10/11/2013 8:28:09 PM

good, fck you Greg!

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SuckMeBeautiful 10/11/2013 9:11:21 PM

Court Verdict: Henry Rollins could in fact beat Greg Ginn in a fight of choice

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anonymous 10/12/2013 5:12:31 AM

Suck it up GG, you worthless hack.

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mummified_circuitry 10/12/2013 8:58:37 AM

The justice system is so hardcore

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carveyournamein 10/12/2013 4:40:54 PM

Flagflip

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anonymous 10/12/2013 9:19:54 PM

Better call Saul.

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anonymous 10/12/2013 9:28:55 PM

LOL @ Ginn not policing the mark or having it be all his own after all these years. Dipshit deserves this ruling. How could one be so stupid and careless? D

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anonymous 10/14/2013 12:07:58 PM

I disagree with the judicial precedence relied upon in this ruling

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anonymous 10/14/2013 12:08:40 PM

Habeus Corpse-us

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