atreyu has sold more records than converge. So how can people say they dont like converge because they are "popular" and not atreyu? Converge wasnt on Ozzfest. Converge didnt debut on the top 50 of the billboard charts. Converge didnt sell over 120,000 units of their debut. That comment made no sense. And no i'm not defending atreyu or converge or terror. I'm simply stating the fact.