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Emmure co-founder slams Frankie Palmeri; lawsuit?

Wednesday, February 19, 2014 6:18 AM PT


Emmure co-founder Ben Lionetti, who left the band in 2009, is now speaking out against the current incarnation of Emmure and specifically, frontman Frankie Palmeri. Lionetti had the following to say:

"I feel a little need to speak out. Let's get this straight ... Emmure is MY blood sweat and tears ..MY band born from my thoughts and my hard work and writing (I'm sure you can see the change from early Emmure to now so if they say they wrote it you know it's a lie; I was actually forced to say it was an even split wether it was money or writing credits) it will never be theirs as much as they can fake it that's all it is .. fake. To see what Frank [Palmeri] is doing to me and my family's hard work is absolutely disgusting. I love Mark [Davis], we hang all the time and have always been friends with Mike since the old Recon days and I still love seeing Jesse [Ketive]. But Frank is a disgusting human being and I'm also a little let down that the band members would even let that piece of garbage call a song 'Bring a gun to school' not to mention their management, But they just see dollar signs ..and you kids keep buying it, so sad... But I guess any publicity is good publicity .. Frank's a demonic genius ... 'Ask your girl what my dick tastes like' was one thing but this shit is just out of hand. To see me and my brother's [Joe Lionetti] work and my family's support over all those years be ripped from our hands and turned into this breaks my heart. I never said anything negative and never wanted to make it public or go after them for money owed to us, like the time they said they magically lost 10k and couldn't pay me and Joe after we left the band. At least now I'll have no regrets when I slam them, their management and Victory Records with lawsuits from now until the end of time. Whether I win or not, My mission is now to take what is rightfully mine. #lawyerup"


UPDATE: Lionetti has now issued the following statement:

Here's the thing, whether they, I, or you like it my name will always be attached to that band and unfortunately it is a very big part of my life, and if it weren't for me and my family these kids would be working in walmart.

Right now with IdreAM, Creative we have some serious industry heavy weights backing us and a collective called Beat Street, which goes into schools and speaks to kids about bullying, depression and giving these kids alternative options such as music production, music business, artist development etc.

We have a band called Before Ciada from Australia embarking on the BAM Tour (Bringing Awareess to Mental Illness) this summer they are going into schools as well speaking to classes about anxiety and depressions, trying to give kids hope and inspiration to better the world so we don't end up with more school shootings and violence.

We manage all these bands and develop their careers all non contracted, just going about it knowing that this love and passion for this music thing will work itself out and inspire others.

Emmure is not just some band playing in front of a hundred kids a night they are known around the world, hundred of thousands of records sold. They have generated through sales, tickets etc. millions if dollars. They have an influence in this world. So to have this band that I worked so hard for when I was a kid now be so desperate to sell records or get attention that they name their first track "Bring Your Gun To School" I find disgusting and pathetic. I don't care if it's just a title, to a young boy or girl who doesn't know the difference, it's poison.

Inspire, Dream, Create

And the world goes round. <3 Ben


103 comments


anonymous
2/19/2014 6:26:43 AM
Salty

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:32:21 AM
Swag.

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:33:49 AM
Frank is shocked by this.

2/19/2014 6:34:09 AM
Small claims court flip

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:36:23 AM
Good riddance.

2/19/2014 6:37:18 AM
LOL U MAD BRO?!

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:42:43 AM
Frankie Palmeri is not stoked

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:43:44 AM
"ask your girl what my dick tastes like" is the worst line in music history and "Bring a Gun To School" is almost worse. This band is a joke. You should be glad you left.

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:43:53 AM
Talks about breeding stupidity and hashtags.

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:47:22 AM
Also you're not that fcking special either. Oh you wrote on the earlier albums.......like they were anything of merit and now you want to sue Frankie for money that he's getting for all the crazy shit he's doing for the band but you don't support it and all the hurt he's causing you and families. #money#lawyers#money#

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:49:50 AM
Somebody isn't writing obscene enough material apparently, maybe you should invent some crazy shit instead of suing someone else for it their money. So what if Frankie is a jerk, at the end of the day if you're a jerk you'll have to live with that but he's still making a living doing him. 80% of the reality is all of you talk shit on shitty bands but you couldn't even start a shitty band if you wanted.

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:53:41 AM
Emmure should be on this

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:56:32 AM
#getoutofanythingtodowitht hisscenebothofyou

2/19/2014 6:58:32 AM
All the non negative posters are Frankie

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:02:18 AM
youre all dumb and obviously emmure d*ck jockeys. because they wrote this album FOR emmure you idiots

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:13:52 AM
ripping off TAS = writing? i see

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:19:33 AM
Someone get Rob Fusco on the phone.

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:23:41 AM
Someone get Rob Fusco on the phone.

^^

LOL

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:28:16 AM
the only album worth a shit is their first and i had the pleasure of meeting ben back in those days, when the band actually sounded good on stage and had some talent. You should be glad you left, clearly all the talent went with you bud

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:32:48 AM
"ripping off TAS = writing? i see"

I didn't say the band was good, I said, he wrote these new songs, FOR emmure.everythings garbage after needlework, but if someone made me write songs for them, then took my music, wrote some shit lyrics, then named it "bring a gun to school" after I walked out of the studio, id be pissed too

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:42:48 AM
fck YOU GUYS MY BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS WENT INTO THOSE CHUG PATTERNS DAMMIT

i can see judge judy right now trying to figure out wtf the point of all this is and calling every party involved knuckle-dragging pinhead losers.

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:44:56 AM
'Someone get Rob Fusco on the phone.'
I LOVE YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:46:59 AM
Emmure...HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:50:39 AM
I'm sueing hashtag

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:54:44 AM
Dude quit/got kicked out five years ago, doesn't like the direction the band has taken now, so he's going to sue...for what, exactly? Dudes get kicked out of bands all the time b..oh right, you say you quit? Yeah good luck collecting that unemployment.

2/19/2014 8:07:11 AM
Frankie prays to M Bison every night that high school dropout wiggers in five panel flat brims stop hitting their girlfriends long enough to buy bazillion color merch festooned with brass knuckles

2/19/2014 8:11:07 AM
#shutthefckup.

anonymous
2/19/2014 8:14:12 AM
lawyer flip

anonymous
2/19/2014 8:16:16 AM
M. BISON...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHSHSHSHA HAHSHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA H

anonymous
2/19/2014 8:19:25 AM
Band is complete trash and makes unlistenable music for wigger mosh turds. Every member, past, present, and future should fcking kill themselves in front of their families.

anonymous
2/19/2014 8:23:26 AM
^^ King Of Clubz supports this statement.

anonymous
2/19/2014 8:32:46 AM
sadballs comment wins

2/19/2014 8:35:46 AM
Frankie prays to M Bison every night that high school dropout wiggers in five panel flat brims stop hitting their girlfriends long enough to buy bazillion color merch festooned with brass knuckles




im dead

anonymous
2/19/2014 8:43:09 AM
I can't believe people still say they sound like TAS, let alone that they ever did.

2/19/2014 9:03:13 AM
I WANNA WATCH YOU sck his dck #cuckoldcore #swag

anonymous
2/19/2014 9:03:38 AM
emmure is one of the greatest nyhc bands hand down haters gonna hate lol

anonymous
2/19/2014 9:08:57 AM
Two retards fighting over a broken toy = this lawsuit

anonymous
2/19/2014 9:16:07 AM
Why doesn't this moron understand that the band getting even dumber after he left is what made them more popular, kids ate it up

anonymous
2/19/2014 9:55:33 AM
emmure is one of the greatest nyhc bands hand down haters gonna hate lol

No one cares Frankie.

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:00:13 AM
"Frankie prays to M Bison every night that high school dropout wiggers in five panel flat brims stop hitting their girlfriends long enough to buy bazillion color merch festooned with brass knuckles"

This is one of the best thing'sI've ever read on Lambgoat. Thank you.

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:02:56 AM
"So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." so what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk." "So what if Frankie is a jerk."

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:03:22 AM
"bring a gun to school".... lolz they whoopsed that one huh. hhehe. this band is for dumb dumbs..

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:07:11 AM
Quit the band 5 years ago and the best thing he's come up with since is chasing Frankie Palmeri around on the internet. The thirst is real.

2/19/2014 10:07:53 AM
'Every member, past, present, and future should fcking kill themselves in front of their families.'
I hope you realize that you are a disgusting semi-human creature and you actually deserve to be decapitated in public, you piece of shit.

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:11:55 AM
This guy is an idiot. He needs to move on and stop being a bitch. Frankie is a piece of garbage, why would you entangle yourself in lawsuits with these people instead of just dropping all of it and peacing? You are hurting the other guys in the band too by this, or perhaps fueling their publicity fire. There are no winners and losers, just YOU not moving on...

#lambgoatpsychologistsessi ons

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:28:46 AM
i blame obamacare

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:33:01 AM
I didn't know emmure wad still a band...?

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:42:51 AM
Bob labla's law blog

#SaulGoodman

anonymous
2/19/2014 10:56:05 AM
Just change the name to Manure.

anonymous
2/19/2014 11:21:26 AM
Wait he's saying Emmure was actually good at some point??

anonymous
2/19/2014 11:30:20 AM
"Emmure is MY blood sweat and tears ..MY band born from my thoughts and my hard work and writing"
Have you listened to The Respect Issue? Literally the entire album is open string chugs.

"...not to mention their management, But they just see dollar signs"
says the guy looking to 'slam' Emmure, their management and Victory with lawsuits.

"To see me and my brother's work be ripped from our hands"
Bro, you and your brother voluntarily quit the band!? Good luck with your lawsuit!

anonymous
2/19/2014 11:33:54 AM
How can he point fingers at Frankie when he finished his threat with a hashtag.

anonymous
2/19/2014 11:41:01 AM
another reason why this website is an infamous joke once again

anonymous
2/19/2014 12:08:16 PM
Oh Emmure is just the best! This should be some publicity; & maybe everyone who deserves money will get it? that sounds great!

anonymous
2/19/2014 12:23:47 PM
Way to use school shootings to push his personal agenda, Obama would be proud

anonymous
2/19/2014 12:45:55 PM
lol @ Emmure being someone's blood, sweat and tears. Must be really hard to write breakdowns and lyrics about a shitty ex

anonymous
2/19/2014 1:52:56 PM
How can he point fingers at Frankie when he finished his threat with a hashtag.
LOL this^^
In other news I hope they release the album with the song then later take the song off future copies. This way I can flip it on Ebay

anonymous
2/19/2014 2:07:05 PM
Emmure is perhaps the worst band. I hate that band and what they stand for. Quasi-Numetal.

anonymous
2/19/2014 2:26:04 PM
WON'T....YOU...BE MY BRIDE

anonymous
2/19/2014 2:31:44 PM
TLNR

anonymous
2/19/2014 2:35:22 PM
Ben is a little bitch punk ass homo. he likes to say he "quit emmure" him and his bother suck got kicked out. emmure might suck but they make lots of $ and are 1 of the biggest bands around. . he's just a wash up that travels around bitching about "oh i started emmure" "blah blah blahhh. he's just pissed that he's out of the spot light and tunes guitars and works for some bitch ass company now. he's not living the dream. plus he has T-REX arms.

anonymous
2/19/2014 3:07:22 PM
Even if he wins the lawsuit Frankie is going to pay him in bison dollars.

anonymous
2/19/2014 3:49:56 PM
"I didn't say the band was good, I said, he wrote these new songs, FOR emmure.everythings garbage after needlework, but if someone made me write songs for them, then took my music, wrote some shit lyrics, then named it "bring a gun to school" after I walked out of the studio, id be pissed too"

"everythings garbage after needlework"

thats easily theyre shittiest album, doo in a bucket full of diarrhea

anonymous
2/19/2014 3:52:53 PM
T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS T-REX ARMS

anonymous
2/19/2014 3:56:51 PM
I met this ben guy years ago when emmure stayed at my apartment - and he was drunk, loud - shit talking about EVERYTHING - know it all. I couldn't believe what he thought of himself. I still know the guys, and he DEF got kicked out and hasn't done shit since. Theres no possible way that anything he is saying is at all credible at all...He is now making MORE hype for emmure with this! Dirtbag.

anonymous
2/19/2014 4:58:28 PM
I used to talk to these guys Needlework-era, and Ben was easily the biggest jerk of the band. Frank and Jesse were super-humble, chill dudes. So take that for what it is worth.

anonymous
2/19/2014 5:43:29 PM
Funniest thing is Lambgoat actually sticking up for EMMURE for once.

Never thought i'd see the day.

Frankie Palmeri is shocked.

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:06:54 PM
Frankie fcking four fingers has a dimond the size of a fist. I told you it's in the briefcase conected to his arm, what more do you want me to do, hit for you???

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:10:02 PM
emmure should be on this

anonymous
2/19/2014 6:23:53 PM
"Ask your girl what my dick tastes like" is a line about an infidelity writhing whore. She's doing just fine might I add. You can catch her on Ink Masters on the 27th.

anonymous
2/19/2014 7:14:33 PM
gay #letmebackintheband

anonymous
2/19/2014 9:31:48 PM
I think Ben want's credit for being a total fcking idiot. :/

anonymous
2/19/2014 9:32:38 PM
millions if dollars

anonymous
2/19/2014 9:34:31 PM
Ben you will be the new mother Teresa. No, please sue Emmure for the thousands of people, and record sales that accrued after you voluntarily left the band and voluntarily stopped caring YEARS AGO. GO AWAY PLAY IN YOUR ARCADIA BAND IN CANADA MAKE SOMETHING ISTEAD OF TRYING TO CURTAIL THE fck OUT OF A BAND FRANKIE PROBABLY MAKES FUN OF TO HIS PERSONAL FRIENDS.

anonymous
2/19/2014 9:40:55 PM
None cares about your creative group. Like at all. Trex arms.

anonymous
2/19/2014 11:22:47 PM
ask frankie what the lawyers dick tastes like

anonymous
2/20/2014 1:29:28 AM
LOL who gives a rats crease? Everyone reading these comments should drop the generic, played out , cookie- cut deatchore- gay djent bullshit and go listen to Daughters, or the Number 12 looks like you... or ..The Tony danza tapdance extraganza or psyopus. I haven't seen much originality since 2004. And bands need to STOP being soooo fcking serious holy fck.

anonymous
2/20/2014 3:40:04 AM
^
Faagot

anonymous
2/20/2014 6:38:33 AM
^^ def gay

anonymous
2/20/2014 6:44:58 AM
IDream?? More like ITake , ILie and Iburn every bridge I ever thought IHad. This clown has nothing to help noone. He cant help himself! This coming from a dude that toured with him years ago, and hasnt seen him since! Just bad publicity about him I see. - my .02 cents

anonymous
2/20/2014 7:00:50 AM
Ben owes me $400.

anonymous
2/20/2014 7:07:10 AM
- I worked with this band for a brief moment a long time ago, and all I can say is that Ben is the "disgusting , pathetic" one. He seems to forget my buddies Jessie and Frankie kicked him out cause of his lack of being a functional human I was told. I would say he deserves nothing but a good look in the mirror of what a shitshow he was bak then and deserves nothing based on what I know and heard!

anonymous
2/20/2014 7:08:42 AM
Good dude.

anonymous
2/20/2014 9:54:23 AM
I just chugged a 2 liter of Sprite.

anonymous
2/20/2014 11:12:51 AM
"So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." so what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk." "So what if Frankie is an jerk."

anonymous
2/20/2014 11:37:41 AM
LOL who gives a rats crease? Everyone reading these comments should drop the generic, played out , cookie- cut deatchore- gay djent bullshit and go listen to Daughters, or the Number 12 looks like you... or ..The Tony danza tapdance extraganza or psyopus. I haven't seen much originality since 2004. And bands need to STOP being soooo fcking serious holy fck.


^New Jack telling other slightly newer Jacks what to do

anonymous
2/20/2014 11:38:38 AM
#theacaciastrain

anonymous
2/20/2014 12:30:32 PM
Sgt. D is not stoked.

anonymous
2/20/2014 12:42:20 PM
Having toured with them, I can honestly say two things.

Frankie, although his lyrics are sophomoric, was a genuinely respectful and kind person. To fans, to bands. Whoever.

Ben, on the other hand, was an attention-seeking, pig-faced coward. He would cry to the management if he didn't get every little tour perk. He would cry to management if he had a problem with someone in another band. This dudes just pining for the spotlight again while he tunes Suicide Silences guitars.

anonymous
2/20/2014 12:56:22 PM
LOL @ all these posts full of so much emotion.

anonymous
2/20/2014 2:53:34 PM
dude gets kicked out in '09
waits til '14 to comment on a track he's never heard of

the saltiest

IF someone was such a disgusting human promoting "gun violence" in school.. don't you think they would've got "kicked" from the band and industry scene a while ago..prolly not cause they make oceans fullof money to swim in thanks to victory.. ha

ben go home your drunk #hashtag

anonymous
2/20/2014 9:38:38 PM
What / who is an emmure? Sum1 plz help a brother out

anonymous
2/21/2014 9:29:38 AM
Dude, if you were worth piss you would have just started another band. fck, imagine if your crowning achievement was this piece of shit band? Life fail.

anonymous
2/21/2014 3:00:22 PM
Better Call Saul

anonymous
2/21/2014 9:54:25 PM
There's so much negativity on this forum towards someone who, despite slight irrationality due to anger, had the courage to speak out against a band that is obviously willing to perpetuate violence. Ben is right in my opinion- it doesn't matter if it's just a "title". Emmure is trying to reap income off of the worst kind of tragedy if they are willing to play with this

anonymous
2/21/2014 9:55:03 PM
kind of linguistic fire.I am fortunate to be very close with many successful people. I am confident that Ben is a smart guy, who knew exactly how to get people talking in order to benefit a more positive cause. Jokes on you guys. Great work here Ben.

anonymous
2/23/2014 4:01:06 AM
Great writing Lawrence.

anonymous
2/23/2014 6:55:56 AM
Most viral metal band since Mötley Crüe

2/25/2014 8:03:07 AM
'Every member, past, present, and future should fcking kill themselves in front of their families.'
^^^

anonymous
2/25/2014 2:17:22 PM
Lars Ulrich is stoked

anonymous
2/26/2014 9:41:12 AM
shameless shitty plug by ben lol

3/1/2014 12:18:28 AM
This isn't the mickey mouse club.

anonymous
11/25/2014 7:08:28 PM
Emmure sucks. Period the end.