As I Lay Dying removed from festival bill
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hahahahahahahahahahaha more to come #antifaagainstlambesis
thank fcking god. about time. shut 'em down
Great news That Last Supper lookin' picture still weirds me out
A lot of promoters are not aware. Our outreach has uncovered a few who said they were looking into cancelling
those other guys in the band better get their sheetrock skills in order. because this thing is on it's way down. and lord knows nobody wants to hear anything else they have to do
white knight cucks. this is a nothing story and will literally have zero impact on Tim and AiLDs resurgence. but whatever you tools need to grasp at to validate your original position (which was and still is laughably wrong)
This is what happens when you put a bunch of SJW snowflakes in charge of big events such as this... the man committed a crime, paid his dues to society - and has announced, on numerous occasions, his remorse for his actions. Now these leftist f4gg0ts have to ruin it for everyone else who just want to enjoy music. This world seriously needs another war to wipe out the weaklings once and for good. The AILD machine will keep moving regardless of the cr4p that gets thrown in their way
Pay your dues to society. Move on with your life. But ethopian children..... never forget.
SJWs are on the right side of history. Live in your failure you fcking nazi sympathizers
definitely right wing tight butthole christians that didn't want him or abortions at their festival
well what do you expect in open borders Spain. spineless fest. the metalcore community has already fallen in line. AILD will be cleaning house in states once album drops (known venues). WALL
would it easier for everyone to understand if they kicked them off the festival for releasing such a junk single? go home, boys. i used to love as i lay dying but seeing them get back together so soon was desperate and the single was sad.
actually based on their support bands, it seems like the only people falling in line are the bands vying for some sort of exposure (and not realizing the downside to affiliating with such scumbags). No established band/label or agent seems to want anything to do with them
i work at mb. actually their stateside tour package in 2019 to coincide with new release has already fielded interest from mid 00s staple groups who are willing and eager to slot in as support on this money train
lmao at "gender violence" and it being a "huge problem". Nah, things are actually pretty good here.
i work at mb. AILD is not on our label. ignore above poster. we couldn't even unload splatter vinyl in a pressing of 300.
ignore the ignorant detractor. splatter, marbles and swirls all moved in tier 1 fashion for our label
"SJWs are on the right side of history. Live in your failure you fcking nazi sympathizers" Thanks for the laugh this morning. Nothing funnier than beta male logic from Redditards
Unlisting the band that might actually reel in cash for the festival? You gotta be morally flexible when it comes to business.
so rad. fck you trump ass lickers and your shitty hair metal nu-rocker white power bnds. ALID has never been very good. all they talk about is jesus and hair care products
this is why music sucks. too many folks with flexible ethics: actually based on their support bands, it seems like the only people falling in line are the bands vying for some sort of exposure (and not realizing the downside to affiliating with such scumbags). No established band/label or agent seems to want anything to do with them
What's funny about these proud boy AILD fans is that they are so excited about misogyny in any form that they're willing to overlook the fact that this band sucks harder now than they ever have before, and they weren't even great back then.
new song is terrible. nowhere near as good as new zao song
"Misogyny" doesn't exist you fcking retard
"definitely right wing tight butthole christians that didn't want him or abortions at their festival" Funny comment toleave in support of a band that faked being christian so parents would let kids listen to their watered down zao bullshit
zao is trash. fck out of here with your horrid takes guy. at no level in their minimalist career have they ever approached AiLDs success and genre defying output
Of course Zao hasn't sold as many records, but that's a moot argument in regards to quality. Secondly, AILD has never "genre defied" in their entire career. Atreyu tier metalcore.
statiscally verifiable that AILD is vastly superior in every category (writing, producing, recording, performing, selling, innovating, progressing).
if by progressing you mean sounding more and more like linkin park with every release then yes. Also apparently you like your metal records produced like a katy perry album
linkin park? swing and a miss. no. i like my records sounding like they weren't recorded live at the VFW
Genuinely curious as to what other metalcore you listen to that makes you think AILD is so great? Shadows Fall or some shit?
they all look so defeated in that picture. Depressed or defeated.
they all look so defeated in that picture. depressed or defeated.
AILD is "metalcore" for 16 year old youth group kids. pssy ass shit.
anonymous2 hours ago "SJWs are on the right side of history. Live in your failure you fcking nazi sympathizers" Thanks for the laugh this morning. Nothing funnier than beta male logic from Redditards Anyone who uses the term "beta male" hasn't gotten their dick wet since backpage got taken down.
That is always the promoters prerogative. The band knew that this would be something to deal with once they decided to reform. They have to take the good and the bad.
Lol that pic. Looks like they're at a dead end and don't know what to do Tim: So guys, I was thinki-- All: Shut the fck up, Tim.
I listen to shadows fall, killswitch engage, haste the day, unearth, it dies today, evergreen terrace, the agony scene, bury your dead, norma jean, Bt, 18v ... you know. tier 1-2. even though it says anonymous it should be fairly obvious who I am in these stories. frequent flier.
come to Mexico, I would like to hear your music; we all are humans and make mistakes. The only thing I want is watch an As I Lay Dying live show before I die... or some one elses...
People gunning so hard to ruin other people to fck girls in bad make up w fuzzy armpits Aild paid his dues why are people mad
People gunning so hard to ruin other people to fck girls in bad make up w fuzzy armpits Aild paid his dues why are people mad
"I listen to shadows fall, killswitch engage, haste the day, unearth, it dies today, evergreen terrace, the agony scene, bury your dead, norma jean, Bt, 18v " bland fcking garbage.
yeah listen to that dip sh*t nerd. bland? haha. a who's who of some of the freshest breakdowns and skull crushing riffs on that well tiered list.
Every single band on that list is indebted to zao
anonymous2 hours ago yeah listen to that dip sh*t nerd. bland? haha. a who's who of some of the freshest breakdowns and skull crushing riffs on that well tiered list. Comment of the year, right here folks.
I actually like most of those bands. Unearth and Nick Brooks era IDT especially. But it's stupid to jock the production quality of Zao's shit while praising 18v. Love those guys, but their best record (Until the Ink Runs Out) sounds like it was recorded in a garbage can.
"Every single band on that list is indebted to zao" Just as much as those bands are indebted to At the Gates, In Flames and all of the other Gothenburg bands. People don't hate AILD because they're generic, they hate them because their frontman is a pompous, amoral meathead. They hate them because they hid behind a religion to gain fans. They hate them because they have shitty fans and because Wovenwar was a disaster and every other member chose money over integrity as soon as Tim was out.
tower of snakes has a top ten best breakdown ever. and yes i've heard american hollow. rising end is only zao song i like but blue 42 came out first (comparable style) so i don't care about 1995 zao or 1997 18v. let's keep it fun and in the early to mid 00s
Bury Your Dead is also a lot of fun, I saw some 250+ pound guy have heart palpatations during their west coast run last year because he got too excited for Magnolia. Always a good time.
"tower of snakes has a top ten best breakdown ever. and yes i've heard american hollow. rising end is only zao song i like but blue 42 came out first (comparable style) so i don't care about 1995 zao or 1997 18v. let's keep it fun and in the early to mid 00s" Great fcking breakdowns to be sure, but Until the Ink Runs Out came out in 2000 and is indisputably 18v's biggest contribution to the genre. Still early 2000's, still sounds like crap, still a great record.
SJWs are on the right side of history. Live in your failure you fcking nazi sympathizers
Zao never played the Gothenberg sound And actually the good metalcore bands didn't either. That was a gaygy influence that was added by stupid eyeliner bands later
^ I didn't say they did. I said the metalcore bands he listed owe as much to Zao as they do Gothenburg bands. It would be pretty stupid of me to argue about Zao this much if I didn't know what they sounded like.
Bands like zao, converge, dillinger, botch, cave in were influenced by extreme metal and hardcore bands. All the bands mentioned a few posts up were influenced by MY list and other metalcore bands. Respect innovators
Anything after you had me at hello signify a huge turning point downward in music originality for BYD. The fact that matt stole his entire stage presence from their earlier singer who was decades ahead of matt. IDT benefited hugely by their first tour as a band with BYD. AILD has no dropped to tier 5, with the likes of shutdown and ringworm from germany, also congress and Ire make that list.
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^ Comment of the year, right here folks.
Could've just said they were removed because they suck. White belts hair swoops gonna have to find a new venue
So people who commit crimes and pay their debt to society can never again have any kind of life? That sounds like the same mindset that locks up blacks forever because of a few drug deals. You made a mistake so now we shall punish you forever! That's a pretty authoritarian take for a bunch of supposed leftists. Read Jason McQuinn and Feral Faun you dummies.
"^ Comment of the year, right here folks." And you monitor the site that condones this dogshit, congratulations
To the guy that posted that asid got back together so soon after his release: It's been 2 years since tim was released from prison. The new single just came out a couple months ago. It's not like they rushed to get it done as soon as he got out. Did you expect them to wait 5 years? lmao
Better learn how to sck a dck. Cuz looks like the JEWS are running you outta town.
"Did you expect them to wait 5 years? " yes. or longer. or how about never. learn a trade.
yeah, this whole "he should be allowed to earn a living" thing is ridiculous. his ex-wife and the mother of his children should be able to live without having an attempted hit put out on her. decisions people. make good ones.
who gives a shit about megan and the ethiopians none of them ever wrote a great breakdown
^ hahaha best comment of thread to you good sir. outstanding and accurate
People who call people Nazis because they disagree with them are stoked.
Dudes who like being serious in the comment section of Lambgoat because it fulfills some sort of internal void the way sweet riffs do for the rest of us are incredibly content. Do you even mosh, bro?
For everyone here against ya boi, take a few seconds from pondering what Women's Studies courses to take next semester at your gradeless, alternative college and consider this: https://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=0ZjGTIBSBdk
So people who commit crimes and pay their debt to society can never again have any kind of life? That sounds like the same mindset that locks up blacks forever because of a few drug deals. You made a mistake so now we shall punish you forever! That's a pretty authoritarian take for a bunch of supposed leftists. Read Jason McQuinn and Feral Faun you dummies. 
I thought I heard One of the Trivium guys saying they wanted nothing to do with AILD and was pretty upset about sharing the bill with Lambesis.
Nobody said he couldn't have a life. But if consumers decide they don't want to support him flying around the world and playing rockstar then so be it. He can work at Starbucks or something.
^lmao, "consumers". Consumers are the ones who are selling out the venues AILD is playing on their tours, and giving them over a half a million plays a month on streaming services (more than a lot of big active metalcore bands). It's not "consumers" who are deciding, it's a small group of twats complaining who think going to prison and doing timewasn't enough and that vigilante justice is necessary.
well in the AILD bubble you are correct. a festival is a larger cross section and outside of the "tim is god" small numbers (yes, compared to truly large acts like Slipknot or Tool, AILD is small potatoes, the average person - let alone metal fan- has no idea who he is). so pulled outside of their core fan base, most people DO NOT want them. - and they are also playing much smaller venues than before, so even their own fans have walked away. Get ready to hang sheetrock timmy
AILD isn't going anywhere. their following and billing slot is comparable to KsE and Parkway Drive in that realm. the venues have already all been updated and those are now selling out. by the time they release a new album in 2019 they will pull capacity at house of blues size venues in Us and have known support. you nerds on here virtue signal and grasp at anything to overcompensate about being dead wrong on AiLDs comeback. no one cares about one festival in spain. move along
house of blues are not big venues. the novelty will wear off when they see timmy can't hold up for a whole set anymore. once they hear how lame the new album is the fans will drop them like a rock. hell even underoath can't draw what they used too. timmy needs to apply for some jobs that will hire felons which is limited, but hey, when you try to have your wife murdered, your life is gonna suck, good. i can't wait until he kills himself
what is great about this fest cancelling due to backlash is it will make other fests think twice about booking them. rumor has it trivium threw their weight around with the promoter to have AILD yanked as well.
Tim owns 3 homes (paid off) and a gym in sunny San Diego, as well as 3 wendy's franchises. he isn't hard up for cash. also is finishing his masters which will qualify him for a entry GS-9 position out of college.
trivium has no weight to throw. they were slotted support to AILD on SOTU and still would be today. That's like flaw trying to apply the muscle to mudvane
Dumb. All involved are dumb. All complaining are dumb. This entire debate is retarded. If you're offended by AILD, you're a hysterical triggered beta democrat.
um. SOTU means shit. right now, in this current climate. Trivium was billed OVER As I Lay Dying. They absolutely have the pull to knock them off the fest. Trivium is currently a bigger band than As I Lay Dying get your head out of 2006
^^^^^ fact, AILD opened for Trivium as late as 2012. Trivium has stepped up a tier past AILD long ago
I work for the fest. Trivium and Slipknot said they wouldn't play if As I Lay Dying was on the bill. Had nothing to do with the fans.
Pretty sure AILD is getting shunned by Sirius satellite too. I know that sounds dumb but it's been a huge stepping stone for bands like Lamb of God, Trivium, BMTH, Parkway Drive and more. I know it's hard for you guys to believe, but people just don't like Tim. Kinda like Phil Labonte. His criminal shit is just the final straw.
dear fourthgradec-cktease, thank you for being the voice of reason in arguably the worst year in LG comment history. your posts lately have given us anons hope for the future.
AILD played before trivium in EUROPE in 2012 where goofy billing always occurs. not the US. tour lineups in the US are the grade and trivium would never outbill them over this way. not then. not now.
Trivium is bigger than AILD in us now too. Face the music F@gg3t
no, they really aren't greaseball. quit talking metalcore, it's not your 'thing'
it's not an american festival, who gives a shit? spain doesn't deserve As I Lay Dying
through struggle on shadows are security is the definition of metalcore, you will not find a better offering so don't try.
tier 1 - as i lay dying, killswitch engage, shadows fall, unearth, parkway drive, all that remains, underoath tier 2 - bleeding through, eighteen visions, the agony scene, it dies today, evergreen terrace, haste the day, norma jean, throwdown, bury your dead, himsa - - tier 5ish to 6 - zao, converge, shai hulud, poison the well, hopesfall, buried alive, stark weather, botch, coalesce, dep, disembodied tier 7 - in flames, carcass, at the gates
^ I don't agree with that at all. You don't have Earth Crisis on that list. Destroy the Machines is pretty essential metal core. Highest tier numerical value reigns supreme on the list, meaning (for idiot republicans..borderline retarded trump voters) the higher the tier the better the music and the talent level increases. Shadows fall/Overcast should be moved up to a solo tier 4 or 6.
"tier 5ish to 6 - zao, converge, shai hulud, poison the well, hopesfall, buried alive, stark weather, botch, coalesce, dep, disembodied tier 7 - in flames, carcass, at the gates" these are literally the only good bands on this list, so if tier 7 is the best, then yeah.
- the average person - let alone metal fan- has no idea who he is). so pulled outside of their core fan base, most people DO NOT want them. - and they are also playing much smaller venues than before, so even their own fans have walked away. Get ready to hang sheetrock timmy - -- top comment so far easy..everyone else gets V1 shutdown
SJWs are on the WRONG side of history, and your transgressions will not be forgotten.
being number 1 is the pinnacle. tier 1 is the top not sixth rate shit tier. having to explain myself and rankings to too many euros. earth crisis, VoD and fear factory are nu metal so not listed. sorry they made their decisions
right right people that support social INjustice are ALWAYS looked at kindly by history
"being number 1 is the pinnacle. tier 1 is the top not sixth rate shit tier. having to explain myself and rankings to too many euros. earth crisis, VoD and fear factory are nu metal so not listed. sorry they made their decisions" I live in America, and you calling Earth Crisis nu metal might genuinely be the most stupid assertion I have ever seen on this website.
Next you'll be telling me that Agnostic Front and Limp Bizkit are essentially the same band. What fcking planet are you from?
i've watched you wave your blunders all over these boards like you are a genuine learning disabled dipshit for some time now. always f cking up quick and picking up pace.
they are top tier in the golden age of metalcore. tough break sissy
"i've watched you wave your blunders all over these boards like you are a genuine learning disabled dipshit for some time now. always f cking up quick and picking up pace." and you've done nothing about it, quit talking like you aren't a bitch
^ try hard pssy. was never about any of this. merch swap tool to try and front cred for a time he wasn't even around for. biggest loser on lg. you won't ever do anything keyboard gay
if by mech swap you mean selling my old shirts to freshmen in 2008, you really caught me bud
That's cute. If I remember correctly it was for really lame local deathcore bands like Underneath the Gun and Dead in Existence, maybe a KOTA one
high school in 2008. quit repping the 90s and mainly shitting on the early to mid 00s like you were there. poser talk. i would know i was there (latter)
Not "repping" shit, and if you're as old as you say you and still clining to the gang mentality of hardcore you're a man child. Early 2000's, laaate 90's shit like converge, all out war, martyr ad, american nightmare, premonitions of war was what got me into listening to heavier stuff in the first place.
"Hardcore" was shown to me by older family. Probably where you're getting your strange anger and confusion from.
haha throwing out mediocre at best names from when you were 6-8 years old? going hard for those merch swap points. not sticking to the wall. early 30s isn't shit imo to back the bands one actually came up with. holds
Clearly math isn't your strong suit
born in 93-95. bet. clearly assessing music isn't yours, wannabe
Lmao not even dude, you're grasping at straws that aren't even there Now call me a newjack again and lets see if we can get this article up to 19,000 for webby's sake
The American school system failed you deeply
Your family's shit taste in music failed you, gallivanting across these boards waving blunder after blunder. give up
JJ polachek is currently 10 paragraphs deep into his metalcucks editorial on why the festival should still be pilloried for ever booking AILD to begin with
AILD is low tier, hovering around shitty groundwork 7inches from 95ish.