NewsDecember 18, 2014 3:08 PM ET12,755 views

ex-Rings Of Saturn guitarist assails bandleader

Joel Omans, recently departed from California technical death metal/deathcore outfit Rings Of Saturn, has taken to Facebook to call out former bandmate, Rings Of Saturn guitarist Lucas Mann. Among other insults, Omans refers to Mann as "a hack of a musician" and a "self-centered asshole." Here is Omans' statement:
"So there's been quite a bit of vagueness to the real reason why I quit Rings of Saturn and It's been eating away at me keeping it to myself so here it goes. "The deciding factor in me leaving the band was Lucas. I had enough of biting my tongue and going along for the ride. When I first joined the band we got along great and had the same common goals as musicians but that changed more and more over the years. To summarize he simply doesn't care about playing guitar or being a musician anymore. Word for word he told me 'I don't give a shit about playing guitar or getting better at guitar, I just want to write music and get the band as big as possible in the shortest amount of time.' So with that kind of attitude it hindered the band from playing any of the new songs from Lugal Ki En that we were suppose to be playing live for the last 6 months. "Ian, Aaron, and myself were all capable of playing the new songs we prepared for the set but we had to make up excuses such as 'the label won't let us play songs until the music video is out or we didn't have time to practice as a band so we aren't playing any songs on the album release tour.' And his reason for not learning the songs was that he was too busy managing the band. I was also told to get off his back for it since he 'Does more in life in general than I do.' "All in all what it comes down to is Lucas Mann is a hack of a musician and I will never work with him ever again. He stresses the band into recording songs note by note, releases them, doesn't learn them and then makes as much money as he can from the merch while sitting in the comfort of his parents' house. On top of that he is a self centered asshole to his band mates and fans which is not acceptable to me in anyway. "I admit he is very smart with managing and promoting a band. Maybe he'd do better helping other bands since he doesn't have the desire to play instruments himself. I've learned a lot from being in ROS and met some amazing people but Ive had enough of the bullshit. I'm not going to sacrifice time with my family, my musicianship, or my integrity for some childish wanna be musician. I couldn't be happier with my choice to leave. I now have time with the people I care about and I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. Thanks to all who have supported the band, I'm excited to start releasing albums that are REAL all the way through for the remaining listeners of mine to enjoy. No longer will I stand for someone to record bullshit parts with my music and not even learn it. Fuck that."

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genghisjohn 12/18/2014 12:15:33 PM

Great. More whiny manstruation.

anonymous 12/18/2014 12:24:52 PM

Onion rings of saturn

anonymous 12/18/2014 12:31:08 PM

Rings of HalfSpeed

anonymous 12/18/2014 12:34:04 PM

if only any of this came as a surprise...

anonymous 12/18/2014 12:34:08 PM

Rings of care

anonymous 12/18/2014 12:51:32 PM

Joel is WAY better than that band. I can't wait to hear all the new stuff he has up his sleeve.

Get_Some 12/18/2014 12:52:32 PM

Saturn has so many moons....

anonymous 12/18/2014 1:02:35 PM

You Got Served! -boooooiiiii!!!

anonymous 12/18/2014 1:07:25 PM

Lucas is keen2.0

anonymous 12/18/2014 1:23:39 PM

Perry Saturn is flogged.

anonymous 12/18/2014 1:37:24 PM

hopefully whatever band Joel gets together will be much bigger and better than ROS. props dude. Lucas can eat it

anonymous 12/18/2014 1:41:20 PM

Haha great

anonymous 12/18/2014 2:12:18 PM

Regardless of the other points that were made, it seems pretty silly to call him "a hack of a musician". He's still really fcking skilled.

anonymous 12/18/2014 2:15:51 PM

Eat my c-ck Lucas Mann you gigantic megapoof

anonymous 12/18/2014 2:27:12 PM

anonymous1 hour ago Perry Saturn is flogged. Val Venis with a kendo stick. SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH!

anonymous 12/18/2014 2:39:32 PM

Lucas: "I'll show him a hack" ..... Makes new play through video with an unplugged guitar and Guitarpro6 full in the mix off a laptop. .... Lucas: "Showed him!"

anonymous 12/18/2014 2:55:14 PM

Lucas' mom is adamantly against this post.

anonymous 12/18/2014 3:48:53 PM

I'm willing to bet that Joel still lives with his parents too

anonymous 12/18/2014 4:20:18 PM

Perry Saturn is flogged. Val Venis with a kendo stick. SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH! CHOPPY CHOPPY YOU PEE PEE!!!

anonymous 12/18/2014 4:43:57 PM

Willing to bet Joel does nothing with his life beyond becoming a subway sandwich artist. Props for whining so much.

anonymous 12/18/2014 5:19:32 PM

^lucas mann detected

anonymous 12/18/2014 5:32:06 PM

Good job Joel. Get the fck away from the bullshit. Looking forward to hearing your new stuff.

anonymous 12/18/2014 7:46:41 PM

anonymous3 hours ago Perry Saturn is flogged. Val Venis with a kendo stick. SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH! CHOPPY CHOPPY YOU PEE PEE!!! Ken Shamrock's sister is not stoked.

anonymous 12/18/2014 8:45:30 PM

My farthole is ticklish

anonymous 12/19/2014 12:01:28 AM

I like the cut of this Lucas guys jib. Seems to have the right idea.

anonymous 12/19/2014 3:10:47 AM

f.aggots with thick rimmed glasses and sweater vests are stoked

anonymous 12/19/2014 4:03:57 AM

Every time I fart it hurts.

anonymous 12/19/2014 6:57:29 AM

Gay band makes fake-ass music on multiple levels. Stop the fcking presses! These retards and retards like them are the lame ass scene bands of "tech" metal or whatever they call it these days. Except without the fanbases. Get AIDS.

anonymous 12/19/2014 7:02:16 AM

Ken Shamrock's sister is not stoked. Shrinkage is way stoked.

anonymous 12/19/2014 7:29:54 AM

he 'Does more in life in general than I do.' he 'Does more in life in general than I do.' he 'Does more in life in general than I do.' he 'Does more in life in general than I do.'he 'Does more in life in general than I do.' he 'Does more in life in general than I do.' he 'Does more in life in general than I do.' he 'Does more in life in general than I do.'

anonymous 12/19/2014 9:30:05 AM

"Shrinkage is way stoked." Dudes who are mostly scrotum are stoked.

fourthgradecocktease 12/19/2014 11:28:50 AM

soooooooo TLDR; Lucas is still a piece of shit. Who could've guessed?!?

Formally_RideTheSnakexxx 12/19/2014 3:30:53 PM

nothing you do will ever amount to shit. just get a 9-5 and pay your bills.

anonymous 12/20/2014 3:38:02 AM

Lucas Mann condones domestic abuse

anonymous 12/20/2014 7:26:01 AM

There goes that Lucas kid again, being a hack of a musician. Dale, you got my computer? I'm gonna go on Lambgoat and give him a piece of my mind.

anonymous 12/20/2014 5:00:46 PM

win ^

anonymous 12/21/2014 8:16:11 AM

was Kevin bacon in footloose?

anonymous 12/21/2014 7:49:17 PM

I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. I've regained that burning passion for my instrument. I've regained that burning passion for my instrument.

anonymous 12/22/2014 7:29:33 AM

Kids with sideways hats who use beat detective on their guitar tracks are stoked to have a chance.

anonymous 12/22/2014 7:43:11 AM

Keene 2.0>>> Except for the whole Keene is a super shredder thing... only cares about (drug) Money writes music to get the next album advance Actually plays it all and is a musical genius wasting good talent. fck it- Start a new band Keene, will crowd-fund for inspirational drug use.




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