For The Fallen Dreams robbed in St. LouisFriday, October 3, 2014 7:16 AM PT / 14,384 views
mr. tough guy chad ruhlig is somewhere having a meltdown
Probably a long term community effort to keep shit metalcore out of their city. Bravo
yeesh..keep someone near the van or park in a pay lot. Its not hard folks
Probably a long term community effort to keep shit metalcore out of their city. Bravo ^^Haha, yes!
FTFD is from Detroit...I would assume they're not idiots when it comes to stuff like this. This can't be some random ninja hobo robbing all these bands.
If they knew this happened regularly... why the fck didn't they get part of their touring crew to sit in the van until the show had finished?
I live in St.Louis. This is pretty hilarious that these bands keep getting their shit ganked.
Honestly, it would seem like bands learn this lesson. Dudes from Traitors honestly have a point, the first one being don't tour in a $45,000 bus if you can't afford the tires for it... I wouldnt be at all surprised if it was inside work.
These bands have worked very very hard to get were they are and to do the things they have done. They don't deserve any of this whether you like the music they play our not. They're doing more with there lives then most of you his probably are. Show some respect
fck that venue the owner is a scam artist piece of shit stealing from bands close that venue for good it's worthless
i live in st louis and the staff at that venue would never do such things... so to scream "inside job" rather than take personal accountability for your possessions by keeping someone by the vehicles at all times, is just immature.
I've played here at least 20 different times and have never had a problem. The Fubar is one of the best venues in the Midwest, bands get robbed everywhere you can't blame the venue/promoter for some crack head stealing your shit.
"i live in st louis and the staff at that venue would never do such things... so to scream "inside job" rather than take personal accountability for your possessions by keeping someone by the vehicles at all times, is just immature." yes because bands touring on the level of for the fallen dreams can for sure afford private security or tour crew you moron
Shapist was also robbed their. Someone broke into Griffins car, and stole his 7 string guitar about a week or two ago.
Thankfully traitors had the courage to tour without their PS3
Someone needs to get sued! The venue obviously.
No band deserves to have this done to them. That being said, you'd think this has happened enough especially at that venue to prompt bands to think about having someone stay with the gear or nearby? WTF
This morning Fubar posted a job opening for and outside security person to watch the trailers until load outs are done.
"FTFD is from Detroit...I would assume they're not idiots when it comes to stuff like this. This can't be some random ninja hobo robbing all these bands." Ftfd is most definitely NOT from Detroit.
They should take this as a sign that they should quit.
im not surprised i played here twice on tour during my musical career, one of the worst places ive ever played but the crowd was amazing. owner is a dick and looks strung out on heroin, but so does half of the people in the city.
As a former venue owner and one that did tons of national touring acts, we valued our talent and fanbase. It makes no sense that there isnt better secirity. I am not going to say thing dont happen they do. But not this often in one place. In 8 yrs we had one van broken into. We, the venue paid for the loss. We felt it was the least we could do. I hope police reports were made and you have seriel numbers on gear. RIP Fat Daddy's Sound Shack best of luck to the bands
Yeah because hiring a guy to go on tour with you, sit in a van for hourrrs driving so he can stay in the van when you reach your destination makes total sense....hey anyone want to tour the country with my band? 1 rule...NEVER leave the van! Oh btw we cant really pay you much since we dont get paid much ourselves
The amount of butt hurt that flows through Jim Hockings Twitter stinks of small dick and insecurity.
its okay the bassists parents can afford to re-buy all the gear for him and his buddies
Bunch of cry babies. You are solely responsible for your own shit. Boohoo
when are these kids gonna learn. dont play st. louis
St Louis is a shit hole. Crime is high and theres a lot of gangs so Im not suprised
I know the owner, he would not do anything to hurt his livelihood. Take some responsibility for your possessions. Hang outside most of the night. Most of the locals aren't that good anyway so you aren't missing anything
One thing about this.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!! Good. This band is crap anyways.
what I don't get is if this happened to over 10 bands in almost a year then why hasn't something been done to prevent it? It shouldn't take that long and that many break ins to realize this either isnt a good venue for bands to be booked at or maybe there needs to be cameras and guards keeping a better eye out.
It was me. I strike solely based on personal taste. It Lies Within and Carnifex are next.
This happens to idiots, and idiots alone. You're in St. Louis... Watch your shit.
being from st. louis and have been to and played at this venue several times, these guys are full of shit about there being a security lot. and these fcktards are also confusing the venues this has happened at and how many times. they are just but hurt because without their little apple computer to play their guitar parts their live show are going to be worse.
most garbage band of all time. Not a single fck given.
Chad, Brandon and Jim all have rich parents. They'll buy new stuff for them. Who gives a fck?
"Shapist was also robbed their. Someone broke into "Griffins car, and stole his 7 string guitar about a week or two ago." Here's an idea you dumb sack of shit, don't put your expensive ass guitar sitting in your back seat in an area that is kinda of sketchy and your window won't get smashed and your shit stolen.
A laptop, cash, and a passport all fit in a fcking back pack. Something that is easily carried and can be kept at your merch booth or on stage with you.
"FTFD is from Detroit...I would assume they're not idiots when it comes to stuff like this. This can't be some random ninja hobo robbing all these bands." You mean a band from Lansing, the capital city which is an hour and a half away from Detroit?
St.Louis is badfcknAss but if u little Bitches cant handle it then Please stay tha fck home..cuz i like my Metal played by Men(or women)..Not by raggin'Ass girl scouts..Suck my fck..Fubar Rules..\m/
It's a pity how quick you all are to judge. As if you don't make mistakes. I feel sorry for people that only find satisfaction within the misery of others.
Shitty arrogant dudes, playing shit music. Mom will buy you a new Mac book, don't worry. Too bad all the talent from this band is in The Ghost Inside now...
My ex gf knows the owner realllyyyy good and she said it wasn't staff but that he does have someone he calls and tips off to when and where to do the robberies. Sad world we live in.
Easy pickings...see a van with out-of-state plate and a trailer and you know no ones coming back for a while. Nice city response. They talk about policing crime hot spots, this seems kinda obvious. Fubar posted they hired a couple more people for outside and are offering to store stuff in their office now...
Minimal sympathy, keep your shit in your backpack, don't be a moron.
I'd just avoid Fubar if you're in a touring band, I've never heard of that many bands being robbed at one venue.
Fubar should be on an episode of scooby doo. Case solved
not one member of for the fallen dreams past or present is from detroit. not even close by. get your shit together. and who cares if they got robbed. it's not like anyone got shot and or killed. fckin rich kids need to man up and quit pretending to be hard. people get robbed every day.
Why would any band agree to play this venue with so many robberies of bands in this year alone? I have thought about going to a couple shows at this venue, but now that it is apparent that it is surrounded by crack head n:ggers waiting to rob people, I might pass on any shows there
This needs to happen to for the fallen dreams until they agree to stop playing music.
Half the people posting on this thread are just pisses that I've years ago when they went to see ftfd they got beat up or hit in the pit. Sorry this bad is more relevant than you will ever be and I don't even really like them. We should set up lambgoat fights I'd love to lay a few of you mofos out. Once I started training to fight I stopped smashing people at shows didn't feel it was right. But I'd love to destroy a basement bully.
This never woulda happened if Dylan Richter was there.
"Half the people posting on this thread are just pisses that I've years ago" Well, yeah dude. That's entirely true. Wait, what?
Shittiest of dudes in this band... Karma is a mother fcker
Half the people posting on this thread are just pisses that I've years ago when they went to see ftfd they got beat up or hit in the pit. Sorry this bad is more relevant than you will ever be and I don't even really like them. We should set up lambgoat fights I'd love to lay a few of you mofos out. Once I started training to fight I stopped smashing people at shows didn't feel it was right. But I'd love to destroy a basement bully. ^^^Settle down Francis, before you get knocked the f**k out.
St. Louis must have some amazing pawn shops.
Some of these comments are ridiculous. I own fubar. I have 8 cameras. There is no inside job. I have never done heroin in my life and weigh 250lbs. Dont leave your shit in your vehicle. Bring it in the club.
I've done multiple shows there and am pretty sure I have an idea who is doing it because the last couple times have involved a white guy with a truck casing my groups before the locals are robbed or bands at venues down the street are robbed. Also, there is no parking lot near by at all.
The owner weights about 350 and he's a big Popeye's chicken eating motherfcker plus they got no cameras because it's an inside job!
why do people go to cities where black people live?
I got a box of produce in at work and it said ruhlig on it
so FFAD wants the owner to put cameras in a parking lot that he doesn't own and that is a half block away from the venue? fcking twats. And where has this number of ten bands come from? downtown st. louis is not the best area. watch your shit.
An inside job? Go fck yourself. Fubar is 2 blocks from the hood, anyone with half a brain wouldn't leave expensive shit in a fcking van. Gtfo.
fck that city, fck that venue, carry a gun. It's your bad for playing there knowing the amount of thefts that occur. Singer is screaming at security "whereeeeee were youuuuu"
"I've played here at least 20 different times and have never had a problem. The Fubar is one of the best venues in the Midwest, bands get robbed everywhere you can't blame the venue/promoter for some crack head stealing your shit." ^ Give me a break, Fubar isn't even one of the best venues in St. Louis. Having played around town, that venue was the worst experience. Terrible sound guy, rude ownership and a shitty location. They didn't even have enough mics.