NewsApril 22, 2014 9:04 AM ET20,817 views

Premonitions of War members among brawl arrests

By now you're probably aware of the large fight that took place last weekend outside of Firefest 2014 in Lakewood, OH that left four people hospitalized and dozens in police custody. As we had indicated in our original news item, the brawl seemed to have primarily involved members of the crews FSU and SOSF. For those who seek more information, you can now check out some 9-1-1 audio and dashcam video from police responding to the incident here. At this time, Lakewood police are working with county prosecutors to mount a case around witness statements in addition to other evidence. Assault, weapons charges, and others are expected to be added. Meanwhile, mugshots from those arrested on the scene were uploaded to website of Cleveland's WTAM 1100. While Lambgoat was browsing the mugshots, we noticed a curious thing: two members of Ohio hardcore/metal outfit Premonitions of War, including founder (and someone we've communicated with in the past many times) Michael Gaytan, were among those arrested. In addition to Gaytan, POW bassist Danny Garcia was also arrested. Finally, Gaytan's wife, Kelly, apparently earned the unfortunate distiction of being the only woman arrested. Premonitions of War has been around in one form or another since 2000, and released material with Victory Records, among other labels. We last heard from Gaytan six months ago, when he informed us that POW was working on new material. In case you weren't aware, Premonitions of War's one-time vocalist was Nate Johnson, he who recently inspired Fit For An Autopsy to create a new verb. We have no details on the specific charges against Gaytan et al, but we'll keep you posted. Michael Gaytan of POW
Michael Gaytan, Premonitions of War guitarist and co-founder


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anonymous 4/22/2014 6:24:25 AM

heh heh, Gaytan. Gaytan is a gay man. which explains why his wife cheats on him

horseheadxbookends 4/22/2014 6:28:14 AM

white trash for the win

anonymous 4/22/2014 6:32:59 AM

Gayton fired shots at the jamboree last year too - everyone blamed king810

anonymous 4/22/2014 6:36:36 AM

no care ever. wish everything burned to the ground and everyone their was burned alive or suffocated by the smoke.

anonymous 4/22/2014 6:37:13 AM

there. my hate blinds my vision.

anonymous 4/22/2014 6:45:56 AM

Once again, crews are gay, FSU. SOSF, etc are gay. LOL at these idiots. Have fun in jail douche nozzles

anonymous 4/22/2014 6:59:41 AM

Shitty, I was hoping for a new POW album.

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:08:06 AM

Why you guys putting Mike on blast? Take this shit down..

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:10:21 AM

POW is actually an awesome band. LIK is heavy as fck.

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:14:01 AM

"putting on blast" you mean reporting the news? Who cares how "cool" or "heavy" his band is. A 36 year old who still runs around with a "crew" and gets into fights should probably re-evaluate his life anyway.

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:30:20 AM

There was 22 other people involved. Why just post his mug? So stupid.. TAKE THIS POST DOWN.

webmaster 4/22/2014 7:30:23 AM

We're not trying to put Mike "on blast." We're like the only website that reports on POW. They've used us in the past to promote the band, so we're not going to stop reporting on them just because it's negative news. I don't feel "good" about posting stories like this, but if we kept all bad publicity off our site, a quarter of our news would disappear. We have nothing personal against Mike whatsoever.

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:31:45 AM

"reporting news" ? damn you are a dumb twat

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:49:14 AM

Yeah...I remember that band. Btw thanks for reporting random ass crap. You're kinda like a tabloid for metal and hardcore. Nobody admits it, but everyone loves dem JOOSY DETAILS

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:57:56 AM

How about reporting that the singer of Crowd Deterrent was also involved? And post that mugshot. Or is that not news worthy because that band sucks and no one would care?

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:58:41 AM

The other 22 mugshots weren't shown because they aren't in metal/hardcore bands that are occasionally featured on this site. This news is perfectly relevant. Im glad it was posted. I likely would have never bought a record or gone to their shows anyways, but now I know for sure that I don't want to give a single penny to these buttholes and their "gangs".

anonymous 4/22/2014 8:15:24 AM


sadball 4/22/2014 8:20:37 AM

Look at all the whiny SOSF bitch boys posting on Lambgoat. Get a job, wugger scum.

anonymous 4/22/2014 8:31:33 AM

This guys parents are going to be so mad when he gets home. They are going to send him straight to his room with no dinner. Seriously anyone defending a 36 year old in a hardcore crew needs to re evaluate life. This dude is a giant loser in life.

SuckMeBeautiful 4/22/2014 8:39:55 AM

These are grown men.... Please take a hard look at your lives...

anonymous 4/22/2014 9:02:02 AM

Lambgoat just reports the news; they're not manufacturing anything here. I, for one, was looking forward to the possibility of new Premonitions Of War material, but that's probably being put on hold indefinitely once again. Keep the facts rolling in as they come. Like many, I'm intrigued by what specific trigger would move some 30+ adult dudes to throw a riot party where they all get arrested in the end.

anonymous 4/22/2014 9:05:42 AM

LAYWHOOOOOO-SAYERRRZZZZ!!! hahaha. 36 and in a "hardcore" gang. hahahahahahhah godddddddd. I agree! - Thank you for posting this so I now may never give money to any future POW projects.

shane_battier 4/22/2014 9:12:37 AM

POW was great thanks for the info!

anonymous 4/22/2014 9:14:48 AM

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anonymous 4/22/2014 9:16:04 AM

This guys parents are going to be so mad when he gets home. They are going to send him straight to his room with no dinner. Seriously anyone defending a 36 year old in a hardcore crew needs to re evaluate life. This dude is a giant loser in life. ^^Best comment thus far^^ Nailed it.

shane_battier 4/22/2014 9:16:07 AM

also makes sense why crowd deterrent and life after death dropped toxic fest in new jersey this weekend. kind of figured one had something to do with the other.

anonymous 4/22/2014 9:28:59 AM


anonymous 4/22/2014 10:00:58 AM

This is the same guy that fired shots at Jambouree Fest last year and got that shut down too. Leave the gun at home. That part of the country is so fcked up.

anonymous 4/22/2014 10:03:48 AM

I saw gayton giving human furnace head on the tailgate if an f150 at summer of hate. Dudes a straight h0m0 brah. Maybe him and lambesis can share a fck shack in the clink.

anonymous 4/22/2014 10:17:57 AM


anonymous 4/22/2014 10:52:27 AM

POW was a great band. Doesn't take away from the fact that it is beyond pathetic for grown-ass men to be acting lime they're 14. Now, when there are no more places left to have shows, you can blame douchebags like this.

anonymous 4/22/2014 11:05:22 AM

So for this guy, a gun is like a beat whistle, or what? That's 2 for 2 where he shoots at nothing.

Hibuddywazup 4/22/2014 11:12:54 AM

Who the thought that a HXC show would attract grown men who act like teenage dipshits?

anonymous 4/22/2014 11:26:00 AM

Can't have "5 world domination 9" when your sickcrew mates are getting put in jail for acting like character from The Outsider book.

anonymous 4/22/2014 11:42:03 AM

Way to be married, with kids, and business owners, and both you and your wife get arrested for being tuff brah......soooo cool. Bet your kids are proudcarrying

anonymous 4/22/2014 12:29:55 PM

LOL at grown ass men fighting. fcking idiots.

anonymous 4/22/2014 12:30:43 PM

Hey guys my friends that were in a crew and were looking for trouble actually..found it. Now can you all donate bail them out? Attorney fees or anything that we can bum off will be great thanks for helping out this tremendous cause. Hardcore lives

anonymous 4/22/2014 12:37:15 PM

These people are all supposed to be GROWN ASS MEN! Hardcore ruins brains!

anonymous 4/22/2014 12:41:43 PM

HAHAHAHAHA.... gay-tan.

anonymous 4/22/2014 12:43:40 PM

Transcanada is stoked for the hits. #PIPELINES WORK.

Snoopy2 4/22/2014 12:58:17 PM Q "Drew Gaytan 1 month ago LOVE this band. Mike is my younger brother.?" Yeah bet this guy's real proud of his younger brother now that fckin gimp

anonymous 4/22/2014 12:59:43 PM

Lost In Kowloon is still the only great album to come out of this petri dish of a scene. Any video footage of the fights, bra?

chicken_gang_bang 4/22/2014 3:27:44 PM

Pow, right in the kisser

anonymous 4/22/2014 3:28:17 PM

Thanks dick mouths bane is next month at the foundry and they're probably gonna cancel it because of morons like u..... you gays can all fck your whore mothers.... thanks for ruining it for all of us..... do everyone a favor and kill yourselves

anonymous 4/22/2014 3:53:24 PM

FSU 378 . Wolves Among The Sheep .

anonymous 4/22/2014 4:15:57 PM

FSU 378 . Wolves Among The Sheep . ^^Give it up moron. Grow up^^

anonymous 4/22/2014 4:34:39 PM

Every gang member that reads this post is an absolute pssy c*nt with no future

anonymous 4/22/2014 4:35:48 PM

You should be thanking them for getting a Bane show canceled.

anonymous 4/22/2014 4:48:54 PM

"Lambgoat just reports the news; they're not manufacturing anything here." Have you read this site lately? Webby has reported in polarized/biased approach on multiple occasions. Even when I agree, it's wholly unprofessional on his part. My established band gets snubbed for wanting to post about a benefit show for someone who is hospitalized in favor of things we already knew, like this: 38/the-ramblings-of-a-cove rt-narcissist

anonymous 4/22/2014 5:26:23 PM

Not that being in jail is cool or anything but it's definitely hilarious, to me, to see how people twist things. It's a hardcore/punk culture atmosphere. If you didn't come to the show to get wild and have a good time then why would you even show up? Stay home, sagea Pff wha ever dude. Welcome to genuine hardcore and punk culture - Alex McCormick

anonymous 4/22/2014 6:25:17 PM

"Why you guys putting Mike on blast? Take this shit down.." ^^^ prob jocked POW at a show with tour small talk and now thinks they are BFF's. crews, wiggers, fat people, and anyone who still thinks moshing is not an embarassing way to spend your time...................... . die.

anonymous 4/22/2014 6:31:53 PM

His wife is probably hotter than 98.8% of the chicks any of you have ever touched

anonymous 4/22/2014 6:41:30 PM


anonymous 4/22/2014 7:34:44 PM

Was Mike down with FSU or SOSF?

anonymous 4/22/2014 7:35:23 PM

It's Lines stretched out to storm and torch, BTW

anonymous 4/22/2014 8:27:18 PM

Mike is down with STFU

anonymous 4/22/2014 8:30:54 PM

*breakdown follows* comment wins

anonymous 4/22/2014 11:18:17 PM

I'd rather smoke crack in heaven...

anonymous 4/22/2014 11:54:56 PM

Band stinx! Left in Kowloon was the worst piece of garbage I've ever heard

anonymous 4/23/2014 3:14:02 AM

Nice try Defiant Merch to print merch (that will probably won't ship) to raise money for their "FSU homies" to get outta jail. GTFO

anonymous 4/23/2014 4:06:59 AM

isn't there a lot of secret gay dudes in FSU? like, do they all meet up at their gang spot and like fck each other listening to death before dishonor?

anonymous 4/23/2014 5:31:07 AM

isn't there a lot of secret gay dudes in FSU? like, do they all meet up at their gang spot and like fck each other listening to death before dishonor? Indeed. I'm sure if they wanted to make gay staight edge porn there may be a market for it.

anonymous 4/23/2014 6:06:06 AM

SOSF = fcking Juagglo's They are a scourge and will be eliminated with extreme prejudice .

anonymous 4/23/2014 7:55:35 AM

Mike Gaytan is a lying cheating jerk who lacks empathy on anyone. He has no heart and is a terrible father.

anonymous 4/23/2014 8:39:23 AM

that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship that will probably won't ship

anonymous 4/23/2014 9:41:42 AM

They should at least take his wifes picture down. She's the ugliest dude of the whole mugshot gallery. Ive heard she cheats on the dude a lot, but whoever that is must be addicted to viagra or blind. Yikes.

anonymous 4/23/2014 9:55:42 AM

Hi guys, Samoan Rob here. In case you weren't sure, SOSF will recruit anyone. So, come one, come all! We won't beat them in a fight, but we also have an endless stock of minions. So who cares! Send $20 with a self addressed stamped envelop for your official membership card. Thanks! And remember 59ww!

anonymous 4/23/2014 10:03:15 AM

Furthermore; Mike Gaytan is a concealed carry instructor.. its pathetic that he always wants to pull out guns whenever there is a fight.

anonymous 4/23/2014 10:32:09 AM

FSU 378 Please come to our ice cream social.

Snoopy2 4/23/2014 11:13:42 AM

I wonder how the mosh in jail is like. Is it still a full contact sport when they are in the showers?

oldbruises 4/23/2014 11:21:30 AM

Stop fighting, friends. Maybe you should give peace a chance. And look into adopting a companion animal.

feastondeadgirls 4/23/2014 12:56:05 PM

I was forcibly removed from a PoW show once for getting into a fight with some bitch asses in the "pit".

anonymous 4/23/2014 1:31:24 PM

I can assure you with the utmost confidence that you are the sole reason why there is no hardcore scene in Cincinnati. You are the reason Platt got stabbed. You are the reason 20+ of your friends are facing felony charges, many of them are re-offenders so will be facing serious time.

anonymous 4/23/2014 1:32:26 PM

If you sleep well at night, then you have more mental problems than I initially thought. Something is seriously wrong with you, pushing 40 and still convincing dudes half your age to fight your fights. Take responsibility for your actions. End this bullshit beef and maybe you can salvage what used to be a decent hardcore community. If not, then watch what you helped create die.

anonymous 4/23/2014 2:38:32 PM

Go on and just give a complete rundown of the beef for all of us who are curious. All these people denouncing this activity secretly really want to be involved. Tell us fight stories, bras.

anonymous 4/23/2014 2:43:40 PM

^truly comedic.

anonymous 4/23/2014 3:11:15 PM

"Putting Mike on blast" ?? Is that white boy language? Don't take this shit down. It shows how unbelievably stupid hardcore music and it's fans have become. Anyone remember when music was about creativity and making the music you love? These idiots think its about fashion and toughness. Get a clue retards. GtFU! (Grow the fck UP)

anonymous 4/23/2014 3:46:11 PM

It was Chubbie Fresh who fired the shots and yelled fck DMS!

anonymous 4/23/2014 5:15:26 PM

Fudge Stained Undies

anonymous 4/23/2014 6:44:22 PM

A sad day for Freemasonry if Alsip is really in caught in the middle of this stuff. It's not a carte blanche for unbrotherly behavior.

anonymous 4/23/2014 7:45:06 PM

Get off of my dick.

anonymous 4/24/2014 3:38:57 AM

Smashing Out Suckers Forever

anonymous 4/24/2014 8:38:04 AM

Alsip is a washed up has been, don't give him too much credit. And he's 75 years old.

anonymous 4/24/2014 8:46:58 AM

Yeah he is and there's plenty of suckers in Cincy that are following in his foot steps. Remember that time he made up some pretend beef with SOSF to start up drama with that crew for no apparent reason? I know because I use to hang out with him lol what a fcking loser,

anonymous 4/24/2014 9:02:06 AM

POW sucks FSU sucks SOSF sucks

shreves 4/24/2014 5:47:04 PM

anonymous 2 days ago There was 22 other people involved. Why just post his mug? So stupid.. TAKE THIS POST DOWN. Because they've been covering POW news since you were in preschool you brainless turd.

anonymous 4/24/2014 7:43:06 PM

Ask will Webb about how those sosf nerds got at him

anonymous 4/24/2014 8:16:28 PM

Its all Scott sparks fault

anonymous 4/24/2014 8:20:16 PM

Sosf really have a hard on for alsip lol

anonymous 4/24/2014 11:11:13 PM

I'm from the Cincy area (Indiana) and I liked Crowd Deterrent and Sufferocate Faster back in the day. I think I saw both bands play the same show. Sounds like CxC , FSU , SOSF is a bunch of nonsense. I'm sure members from each crew once knew each other and were friends. Why can't it just got back to being that way? Believe I'm not a peace loving hippie. I give no shits about fighting but shit I pick my own battles these days and it's def not over hxc beef that's for sure.

anonymous 4/25/2014 3:25:55 AM

I guess I'm not the only one that thinks Chris Alsip is a joke. Dude, you're like 40 years old and working at a car wash. It's a good thing that all of your friends are 15 or they'd be laughing too.

anonymous 4/25/2014 6:11:44 AM

All of Ohio is pretty lame. Cincinnati is the worst city in Ohio. Alsip has booked the band I'm in many times and the show had good turn outs. The kids that go are lame like no other town's scene I've been to. Columbus and Cleveland are rad.

anonymous 4/25/2014 12:34:12 PM

Paul Castro the Don here. I'm bummed the comment about me got deleted, but I'll respond anyway: I am a fat, white trash wigger; you're not telling me anything new (Hail Norwood). And yes, Alsip is a pssy; everyone from Cincy is aware. Beef is stupid. I just came to party and got caught up in nonsense.

anonymous 4/25/2014 12:34:48 PM

Also, Mike's wife definitely didn't have the ugliest mugshot. That place is reserved solely for Joe. He was arrested for being a complete and total fckboy, and was found guilty of all counts.

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anonymous 4/26/2014 1:34:59 PM

They "got at me" on vacation in with my chick. Jumped me from behind in a bar four on one. I've been beat up, I've been jumped before, I'd have dealt with that. They were extra classy and even punched the chick I was with in St. Louis. I don't know why my name is even being brought up.

anonymous 4/26/2014 4:15:57 PM

^^ Sounds like the time I got jumped by four courage crew pussies that didn't want to fight me one on one. Typical bitch mentality. All crews are lame as fck.

anonymous 4/26/2014 4:20:22 PM

^fake story. whats new though.

Snoopy2 4/27/2014 10:33:22 AM

When will you retards realize the only thing killing the hardcore scene is hardcore itself

anonymous 5/1/2014 10:02:36 AM

It seems that Mikes 335 crew has turned into FSU. He's know for pulling guns on people. SOSF has acted like jerks for as long as I've been going to shows and deserve a beating in my opinion but if FSU is going to bring guns and fire at crowds then they should be run out of town and refused entry at venues

anonymous 5/1/2014 10:03:39 AM

These two crews are fighting over Instagram comments. Put the guns down a learn how to fight. Now SOSF still has their annual Summer of Hate concert happening in June. Wear your vests kids...this is hardcore.

anonymous 5/2/2014 6:19:29 AM

SOSF are nerds in vests and these FSU guys from Toledo are trying too hard to be hard. 335 crew was gay and things don't change because you get beatd into FSU.

anonymous 2/26/2015 12:09:22 PM

Mikes wife is a lesbian now. Can't blame her, she was already used to pussies apparently.

anonymous 5/1/2018 10:34:54 AM

"Left in Kowloon"-not Lost In Kowloon if your scene is a petri dish than you must be the algae eater keeping the dish clean... is still the only great album to come out of this petri dish of a scene.

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