UBI (Universal Basic Income)

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easyhateoven 6/19/2019 2:12:00 PM
AnalButt 6/19/2019 1:29:04 PM

Remember being 10 and going over to your friend's house and they had that awesome Veinetta ice cream cake that was just thin layers of ice cream in a lasagna-type mold?

yes, and it was delicious
suicidebears 6/19/2019 3:29:28 PM
portslob 6/19/2019 1:29:20 PM
How are you going to enforce companies to spend? How would it be monitored? Only maybe 10% of all businesses in the US are publicly traded on the stock market where transparency is required by SEC law.
These companies will just go private. Government and business don't mix

you must hate citizens united then
BULLETHEAD 6/19/2019 3:32:42 PM
they should just base the prices of goods and services on a person's income. like if if some poor guy wants the new Converge album it'll cost them 5 bucks but if Zuckerberg wants it he'll have to pay 2.7million
zordy 6/19/2019 3:34:26 PM
if you give everybody free money wouldnt the price of shit just go up naturally over time so that its like we didnt even give them money???? ok heres $1,000, btw a cheeseburger is $1,001 now ok
portslob 6/19/2019 3:43:12 PM
The money has to come from somewhere.. and it will come from people who don't receive any benefit from it.
portslob 6/19/2019 3:46:16 PM
It's the same thing as student debt forgiveness..you think the debt vaporizes into thin air? No, it will be paid off with taxes.. now some guy who may have never went to college is footing the bill for some douchebag that decided to go to a school that cost 80 grand a year and majored in scuba diving.
BULLETHEAD 6/19/2019 3:48:02 PM
working hard is for fcking losers. i think we can all agree on that
suicidebears 6/19/2019 4:17:52 PM
portslob 6/19/2019 3:43:12 PM
The money has to come from somewhere.. and it will come from people who don't receive any benefit from it.

what's the problem with that

does Jeff bezos need that extra $20bn

is it doing him or anyone else any good
portslob 6/19/2019 4:21:47 PM
That's the fcking attitude of a commie!
It's none of your business how much money bezos makes.
You can't penalize people for being successful in a capitalist society. He's subject to the same tax laws as all of us.

This shit has been done before and failed miserably.
portslob 6/19/2019 4:22:25 PM
Read 20 posts before.. all this shit is rooted to envy
suicidebears 6/19/2019 4:31:34 PM
i would never want to be even 1/100,000th as wealthy as he is, and neither should anyone
BULLETHEAD 6/19/2019 4:35:17 PM
this guy tithes
portslob 6/19/2019 4:48:10 PM
Bezos is a bad example.. 99.9% of that guys net worth is stock based compensation, he doesn't have 600 billion dollars sitting in a savings account..
At some point he took a calculated risk.. he probably traded a salary for stock that was worthless when he received it.. then he busted his ass to make the company what it is today, and all that stock skyrocketed.. that's something rare, he could have easily lost his shirt, and if tomorrow a news article comes out that amazon kills a baby every time they deliver 10 packages, all his wealth will be gone..

How about this example.. say you, suicidebears, today decided you wanted to take your hard earned money and invest it into a piece of land you think will be valuable 20 years from now.. maybe you pay 50 grand, a lot, it drains your savings, but you're taking a risk because you think the return will be big..
For 20 years you maintain the land, you pay the taxes, maybe you put up a nice fence, you protect YOUR investment..
Then, sure enough, Jeff Bezos calls you and says he wants to buy your land for a million dollars to build a drone launch pad..
You sell it.. 950K profit.. now the government is going to take capital gains tax 15%,your state will take additional income tax.. now you're down to about 800k profit..
But 20 years has gone by..
You've worked hard, maybe made a couple other investments, socked away a good retirement portfolio (which the gov't will also tax) now your net worth has exceeded a certain level that the government has deemed to be too much.. so we're going to take even more of your money..
And guess what? We're going to give it to people who don't work, don't save, and have made terrible financial decisions in their lives.. why? Because their hands are out and some politicians that promised them these freebies were voted in by morons.

Now is that fcking fair?
zordy 6/19/2019 4:51:03 PM
he cant have it for a million its 10 million
marching_band_rules 6/19/2019 4:51:21 PM
portslob with the strawman in-a-vacuum scenarios FTW
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