InterviewsMay 30, 200319,499 views

The Red Chord interview

By John C.
Ok, we're back with another lengthy interview. Mr. John Lambgoat met up with The Red Chord at CBGBs in New York at the end of March to discuss the usual stuff. Along the way you'll also find guest appearances from such people as Nick (of Between The Buried And Me), Andy (of Every Time I Die), and Rich Hall. Either way, we hope you have nothing to do for the next 30 minutes. Let's start off with a few frequently asked questions...


Where does the name The Red Chord come from?

From a German play where a schizophrenic man slits the throat of his lover, but then reverts to his normal self and asks "My love, what is that red chord across your neck?"

How did The Red Chord start as a band??

Guy and Kevin were originally in a band for several years before Red Chord. The pair, along with Mike (ex-Hassan I Sabbah), the drummer, would come together to form the unit. Multiple personnel and instrument changes, the band would play its first show in mid-2000 alongside Blood Has Been Shed and Undying at Café Mio in Taunton, Massachusetts. Adam would eventually be invited to fill the bass position, while Gunface joined to add an additional guitar player. The Red Chord finally began to take its current form after this line up solidified.

How did The Red Chord end up releasing "Fused Together In Revolving Doors" on Robotic Empire??

Guy and Mike (the drummer) were visiting Boston following the breakup of Hassan I Sabbah, and attended a party with Andy of Robotic Empire. Following a fight that resulted in a broken elbow and face, the band members passed along a demo of "Catalepsy" to Andy. The two camps kept in touch following the party, and Andy/Robotic Empire's interest resulted in The Red Chord sending over more material. The end result was a one-shot record with the label.

Are there any scheduling conflicts between The Red Chord and Beyond the Sixth Seal??



Why don't we start off with the formalities? Name and position in the band?

Adam: Adam, I play bass.

Kevin: Kevin, I play guitar.

Mike (aka Gunface): Mike. Guitar.

Cool. Thanks. Since Guy isn't here, I'll probably have to omit some of the lyric-related questions.

Mike: It's alright. We can make stuff up.

Haha. Ok. Some of the recent stuff going on with the band: You played Goodfellow Fest up in Canada, right? How was that?

Adam: It was pretty cool.

Kevin: First day was better than the second. Second day, I think we had some problems with our equipment…like today.

Adam: Always.

Kevin: Because we're fucking gay. And the first day was really good though. We surprisingly got a really good reaction. You know, long drives. It was good though. It was worth it.

Adam: It was a nice experience.

You played Hellfest last summer. How was Goodfellow Fest compared to Hellfest?

Adam: It was real small.

Kevin: It was small. It was like 190 people the first night, the second night was like 150.

Adam: I think there were only eight or nine days. It was one day. It was like the same five last bands in those cities. So it was definitely a small thing in comparison.

You guys don't any "relations" going on with Goodfellow, do you?

All: No, no.

Haha. Ok.

Adam: We just talk to a lot of people.

Alright, that's cool.

Adam: I don't know. Premonitions (of War) might have had something to do with it because we toured with them, got along really well with them, and they're on Goodfellow. So that might have had something to do with it.

Ok. Recently, you guys were also in A.P. (Alternative Press). You were hightlighted as "A.P.'s List of 100 Hundred Bands to Save You From Corporate Rock." So, how do you guys feel about making that list?

Adam: I think there was some corporate rock on that list.

I definitely agree.

Kevin: Yeah, just a little corporate rock.

Adam: Wasn't The Used on that list?

They might have been. There were just a lot of bands that didn't belong there.

Kevin: Tell ya, we were on there. So that means there was 100 gay bands.


Mike: You know, I listen to Huey Lewis and the News, and they were considered corporate rock. So, apparently, when they listen to us, we're not saving them from corporate rock. We're influencing them to listen to Huey Lewis and the News.


Kevin: There you go.

That might be a bad thing. But do you think this is an appropriate label for you guys? How do they perceive The Red Chord as saving people from corporate rock?

Mike: The way I see is, I don't even care what they say, as long as they say something about us. You know, it's like they're talking about us to kids. I don't care how they market it.

Any publicity is good publicity.

Mike: Right. Kids are going to find out about us, and that's all that matters.

Adam: As long as their description is somewhat accurate, you can call us whatever. I don't even know what they call us. A hardcore band?

Mike: Yeah, they don't even know what to say about…cheese.


Adam: Cheese is important.

Of course. Alright.

Adam: I have a friend who doesn't like cheese, and I don't want to be friends with him anymore.

Kevin: I'm lactose intolerant and I love cheese. You don't want to be near me when I let it loose, my friend. Sometimes I can't help letting it loose.

Are you guys vegan or vegetarian?

All: No, no.

Kevin: Not one person in the band. We told bands that everyone was like vegan, and we're like the only band that's like "Give me meat, give me meat."


Mike: I love ripping apart meat with my teeth…


…and imagining killing lots of animals when I do it.

That's very metal.

Adam: What's your motto? If it's dead and it moves, you'll eat it. Or it moved.

Mike: Yeah. Yeah right. I mean, I'll eat anything, except for a very large list of things.

Haha. Alright. Maybe we can go into that list a little later. Kind of taking a step back, you have the CD on Robotic Empire, "Fused Toghether In Revolving Doors." I know you've probably been asked this a lot of times, but if you can describe the recording process, how it went, etc…

Adam: It was three suicide days. We tracked the whole thing in three days. It was like 14 hour days.

Kevin: 14, 15 hour days.

Adam: Yeah, we mixed it in a day-and-a-half. We yelled at each other, we hated each other. It was fun though.

Kevin: That is a lie, because that was the best time we ever had I think. There was a pool table.

Adam: But we still yelled at each other. We yell at each other everyday.

Mike: Andrew, the engineer, was amazing and put in extremely long hours to help us out, and put out a great sounding album.

Definitely. I have read that it was done in three days, and the recording sounds great. Looking back, if you were recording the new album, would you want to repeat that process in terms of working under pressure? Does the band work well under pressure? Or would you rather take your time and be meticulous about everything.

Adam: No. We'd want to take as long as we can afford ("Yeahs" in background) without going over the excess. It would take like a month.

Kevin: Definitely. We want to find the best studio possible that fits us. An engineer that'll basically push to perform better. We need time to be comfortable where we are, because you're going into a totally different atmosphere and you need to be comfortable.

And the three days, that was because of time and budget constraints?

Adam: Yeah, we recorded that. We would've not gotten much money from the label.

Kevin: We ended paying an extra, ourselves, well over two grand.

Adam: We paid for over two thirds of the record.

How's the record been doing? I think it hit like, what was it, #11 on the CMJ music charts?

Kevin: Nine at one point?

Or, right, nine at one point. And you've had The Syndicate pushing it, right.

Kevin: They did, they did, for six weeks. The Syndicate is amazing.

How did you guys hook up with them? Or if you can go into a brief description about who they are and what they do.

Adam: I mean, they're just a college radio promotion. They deal with some commercial studios. When Guy was in college, he was the general manager of his station. So he was talking to all these people and like he dealt with the usual companies doing promotion, like Concrete, The Syndicate, Bullpen. And he had a good relationship with Ben and seen good results. So the decision was kind of based on that. That was really a lot of Guy's doing-pushing to work him.

And you mentioned that you're not working with them anymore.

Kevin: Yeah, once it fell off the top-20, we let them push it a little while longer. But then the money sort of dwindles considering we had to pay two thirds of our recording.

Adam: The usual process is that you pay for a six-week campaign or so. After that, then…

So since then, you guys have just been…

Adam/Kevin: Touring.

Are you guys keeping track with how the CD is selling?

Adam: Yeah. It keeps going, and there slowly has been more advertising added. Whatever we can do with tour and sales boosts.

Kevin: Dramatically, actually. Like, if we do a tour, you'll notice a week-and-a-half, two weeks later, that the record will be selling triple or quadruple what it was before. So, this style of band, like, you live off touring and playing, because there is nothing else. You're not going to be played on MTV or corporate radio, you know? Sometimes.

Ok. And you did the layout for the record, right Adam?

Adam: Yeah.

What was the influence or inspiration you drew from when designing the layout?

Adam: Well, I mean it was supposed to be based on the whole story, I believe it was in Chicago? That fire?

Kevin: No, New York. The, ah…I mean no, Boston. What am I talking about?

Adam: It wasn't in Boston. I don't know.

Kevin: It was Boston. It was the Coconut Grove. And 500 people.

Adam: It wasn't in Boston.

Kevin: Yes it was.

Adam: No it wasn't.

Kevin: Guarantee it, because my girlfriend's grandmother had a restaurant right next door to it.

Adam: I'll bet my first three children it's not in Boston.

Kevin: That's fine. We're going to bet.

They shake on it.

Adam: It doesn't matter. Anyway, there was a fire and there was the only exit. This was before fire exits were mandated, and the only exit was a revolving door. And everyone just crammed in the door, spun around, didn't get out, and died. And it's kind of based on that. A lot of pictures of burned out buildings, and the handprints are supposed to be a charred-type deal.

Do you find some sense of irony with the whole Great White thing?

Mike: I was wondering if maybe our sales would either fall drastically, or rise drastically, depending on, you know, whether people made the connection.

Kevin: We're looking to tour with Great White because of that. How can that not happen?

I think it would work in your favor. You mentioned tonight that despite all the rumors, you still haven't settled with a record label yet. And the record on Robotic [Empire] was a one-shot deal. How's it been shopping around?

Adam: We're talking to people. We're spending a lot of time talking to labels and it's still…we can't say any names because we still haven't signed anything. But it's close, but it's still not, like, it's where we think we're going to end up, but things happen, and we can't really say. We're writing the material and playing out as much as we can. We'll see what happens.

Kevin: I think everyone will be sort of surprised, maybe upset, on who we might sign to, because I think a lot people are expecting us to sign to a certain label. And you never know, so I think people might really surprised about what happens in the future.

What is it specifically that you're looking for in a label now. You know, some of the positives that a label can offer that maybe Robotic couldn't offer The Red Chord at the time?

Adam: We just want someone who believes in what we do and has the means and the knowledge to push us as far, you know, help us take us as far as we can. I mean, this is what we do. This is all we have in our lives right now and, like, we want someone who feels the same way and will put in as much effort as we're putting in.

Kevin: And it's pretty obvious that some labels have more faith in us than others. So, that would make a huge, huge difference you know.

You already mentioned that you're writing new material. I've read in other interviews where you guys talk about the music in terms of maybe becoming even more extreme and what not. If you can talk about what direction is the music taking, are you adding new elements into the music, or just building on what you started from the last record?

Kevin: I think we just write music. Like, I don't know how to look at it. Guy might express that we're going in a more extreme direction, but we can all agree that we just want to write music…

Adam: Music that we'd want to listen to.

Kevin: Yeah.

Mike: We just want to write music that's cool.


Ok, that's good. "Cool" is good.

Kevin: I don't think…there's nothing, we're not looking at anything with where we want to be. We just go practice, we did this, and we see what happens.

So you're not trying to pigeon-hole yourselves…

Adam: We're not concerned with labels or anything. I don't know who said this, but someone said there's only three types of music: music I like, music I don't like, and music I haven't heard. And I think that's how it should be. Like, all these labels. There's so many it's ridiculous.

Mike: Some people call us a grind band. Some people call us a hardcore band. Some people call us a death metal band. We're not any of them, really. We're just sort of a noisy band.

Kevin: We're just five guys that love to play music, and we play music. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. Ta-daa.

Cool. How about in terms of recording the new record-is there any specific producer or engineer that you have in mind that you'd like to work with?

Adam: We've talked about working with Andrew Schneider again, and he's expressed interest. And I definitely want to work with someone who wants to work with us. You know, so it's not just a business "I'm trying to get paid"-type thing. Honestly, that's a long way down the road. We're still writing.

Kevin: Most likely, the way it looks right now, our record, we probably won't even record it until 2004.

Don't pull a Hatebreed or Shai Hulud. Five years between records.

Kevin: I know, I know. We have a lot more touring coming ahead of us, and we take a long time writing songs, and, if we can't, like, practice one week and go on tour the next week and try to write a new song the first week, it just doesn't work. You need to just sit there and just like, weeks at a time, work on stuff. Eventually, the summer we may just take of time and just start buckling down and writing tons of stuff. But, most likely, it might not happen until 2004. Most likely.

Haha. That's not good news.

Adam: Yeah, we're super anal.

How about, off the subject of the record, as a band, do you champion any sort of message? Is there any mission statement behind The Red Chord or is it all about music?

Mike: There is definitely no one statement because…

Adam: I think for the next record it'll be videogames.

Kevin: Or cheese.

Mike: The thing is, everyone in the band has, we don't all share the same, any same belief or credo, really. So, there will be no one message.

Kevin: The answer is "No."

Ok, I can take that. I did a lot of homework and reading about you guys…

(Nick Fletcher of BTBAM passes by)

Adam: Did you do your homework about Nick Fletcher?

Haha. No.

Kevin: Of Between The Buried And Me? That kid's gay.


That's what I heard!

Mike: I think he's one of the best people ever.

That's very kind of you. Shoot, what was I saying?

Mike: You were doing your homework.

Yeah, I was doing my homework. I was also reading, I think that was Guy, saying that you play a lot of hardcore shows where you get a better reaction, versus metal shows where people are just standing around with their arms folded, headbanging. This sort of relates to what Gunface was saying about the music and labels-Do you get a lot of crap from hardcore kids saying "Oh, they're too metal," or metal kids saying "Oh, they're not really metal."

Kevin: Absolutely.

Adam: We get that all the time.

Mike: Everyone who's latched on to every genre has their own whiney, bitchy thing to complain about. I don't really care. People are going to pick you apart no matter what you're doing, so fuck them. Whatever. I don't care about any group of kids. I just care about the kids who like us.

Kevin: The answer's "Yes."

Ok, very good. How about in terms of changing your style of music to earn a living? Would The Red Chord suddenly play melodic metalcore?

Mike: You're asking if we'd change our sound to make more money?


Mike: For a long time, I thought I had this certain idea about selling out. About people. The only time I think you're selling out is when you're compromise your music and you're not happy with it. If we had compromised our music to sound more mainstream, and we liked the music that we're playing, yeah, we'd do that. As long as we're happy, that's all that matters.

Adam: For me, though, I'd just start a new band. If I was trying to get on the radio I'd just start all over.

Kevin: I don't even care.

Mike: Whatever. Do everything.

Adam: Give me all your money.

Kevin: Cheese.

Mike: My motto is "Do everything."

Ok. Where do you see the band in a few years…

Kevin: 2013?


Right. In two or three years the new record will be coming out.

Mike: Broken up, beating the shit out of each other until I die.

Kevin: Then rotting.

Adam: I don't know. I can't tell you where I'm going to be next week.

Mike: We almost broke up a couple of times.


So we could almost break up again. Or we can break up. Or we can break up, or we can break up.

Adam: We weren't very happy with how we played tonight. We'll probably break up tonight…

Kevin: Do you know how many "Band Talks" we've had?

Adam: It's ridiculous.

Kevin: We have interventions on a monthly basis.

Who usually calls them? Do you ring a little bell?

Kevin: We all of the sudden walk into this one room, and we just sit there until someone says "Ok, let's talk."

Adam: "This is what I don't like."

Mike: Well honestly, it's been a tumultuous experience anyway. We can't really say when we're going to be going in. I know I'm going to be doing something, and that's playing videogames.

Adam: We're five very different people, and like, we're still learing how to fight with each other.

Is there a lot of inner squabbling in the band? Do you guys get along?

Kevin: At first, it was, like, really bad. But, I mean, we knew we'd end up working out eventually. Like, we were like "Oh, we're going to break up." But now we deal with things a lot better now with each other. We know how each other are, because we basically live in van with each other at months at a time. You need to learn, and you need to deal, and you need to grow up.

Mike: I get mad when people leave their money in my wallet.


So I start yelling about that, and they start bitching at me. So I kick everyone in the world's ass-all at once-and drive a van into the sunset.


So the answer is "Yes."

All: The answer is yes.


Adam: I think the band takes over sometimes, and it's what we do all the time so it consumes us. And, we are friends and we do hang out outside of the band, and it's important that we take a break from talking about it. We just come [and hang out] like normal people.

(Kevin: Hey, Nick. Come here, man. It's Lambgoat)

Nick, come here.

Kevin: Nick knows Lambgoat.

Nick BTBAM: Lambgoat. Yeah. Good times. Howdy Lambgoat.

Hi Nick. How's it going?

Nick: Lovely.

Kevin: See how Nick answers the questions for The Red Chord.


What do you think about these guys [The Red Chord]?

Nick: What do I think about them? Ehh, they're not too good. I don't know. They're incredibly sloppy live, you know. They're a fucking mess. This guy [Mike], you know, they need buy some shit that doesn't squeal and make sort of horrible noise all the time.


You know. They're just washed up.

Do you think they should start playing some radio-friendly…

Kevin: Nu-metal.

Nu-metal rapcore?

Mike or Nick: They should covering some Disturbed song I imagine.

Kevin: You didn't hear the one we did tonight?

Adam: Oh yeah.

Mike: OO-OO-AH-AH!!! (mimicking Disturbed).

Adam: Did you know there is a Disturbed cover band? There is a Disturbed cover band. That's ridiculous.


Adam: Every time I see nu-metal kids, I think "Dern-ner-ner-ner-ner, Dern-ner-ner-ner-ner. Der-ner-ner-der-ner-ner OO-OO-AH-AH."

(Nick leaves)

Kevin: See you later, Between The Buried And Me.

Adam: Be in the studio and make that monkey noise and think, "Hey, that's good. That's cool!"

Mike: Nick is an awesome guy. I want to hug him every time I see him. And I do.

That's very sweet of you. How about if you're doing a new record, Adam, would you still be designing it yourself?

Adam: Yeah, probably. Unless they voted me and said "I hate everything you do, you can't do it."

Kevin: No, we'd definitely let him do it. All of our designs come from him.

Mike: Yeah, it's good.

What about if there was another artist who approached the band and said, "Hey, this is what I envision about The Red Chord."

Adam: Yeah, I mean I'm totally down with working with other people. My best friend lives in Brooklyn now, and he's an incredible illustrator. And I hope to work with him in the future. Maybe not necessarily for The Red Chord record, but whatever is going to work the best and look cool. It's not about "Oh, I have to do this myself."

How about any specific bands you want to go on tour with going forward? You mentioned Between The Buried And Me and…

Kevin: Between The Buried And Me and Premonitions of War.

Adam: We want that tour to never end.

(random yelling and laughter)

We want to tour with Premonitions of War and Between The Buried And Me until we die. Because Between The Buried And Me is the best band ever!!

Mike: Actually, I want to tour with Pizzacato 5.

Pizzacato 5? Ok.

Kevin: Electric Wizard.

Adam: Electric Wizard is awesome.

Mike: Electric Wizard. And Cheebo Mato. Sean Lennon is in that band, you know. Cheebo Mato is amazing, and I wanted to role with them.

Kevin: We were actually listening to Mandy Moore today.


Mike: We were listening to Mandy Moore in the van today.

I can understand that, because…

Kevin: She's hot.

Besides that, but the constant grinding and hardcore.

Kevin: You gotta be gay sometimes.

("Yeahs" all around)

Adam: You need underage girls to break up the monotony.

Mike: It's not gay to look at underage girls. And here's another point-


I thought I'd bring this up. You know the movie The Professional?


Mike: Well, Natalie Portman is in that, and I don't care if she's 12. She's hot. When that movie came out, I was also 12. So it's totally ok for me to watch that and say "She's hot." I'm the same age as her. I think about the same age.

I have to confess that when I saw that freshman or sophomore year in college, she was hot as a little girl. But not like in a dirty, pornography way.

Mike: But how old are you?


Mike: So yeah, when she was that age you were only a couple of years older than her, so it's not that bad.

Yeah, not that bad.

Mike: So, back then, when that movie came out and you looked at that, that was ok, right?

But I looked at it later.

Mike: I know, but it doesn't matter. She's older.

Adam: She's really short. She's really, really short. She goes to Harvard, and when I went to college, into the city, we'd see her eating pizza. Actually, there were kids in my dorm that would go "Natalie Portman Hunting."


Adam: Yeah. We would just waste nights following them around and laughing at them. And we'd catch her eating pizza. She's like, I don't know, probably not even five feet tall.

Sounds like good times.

Kevin: Are we talking about Guy?


No, we're talking about stalking Natalie Portman.

Adam: …[indiscernible] of Natalie Portman.

Mike: Natalie Portman is an attractive person.

Adam: She's intelligent too.

Kevin: We saw her in Boston once because she goes to B.C. I think. Or B.U.

Adam: No, Harvard.

Kevin: Harvard.

Mike: However, I want to buy the movie Sweet Home Alabama.

You wouldn't?

Mike: I want to.

Oh, you want to.

Adam: She's not in it.

Someone: Reese Whitherspoon.

Mike: I know, Reese Whitherspoon.

Yeah, Reese Whiterspoon. What was it that turned you to Reese Whitherspoon?

Mike: What was it that turned me?

Kevin: From Natalie Portman to Reese?

Mike: I was never obsessed with Natalie Portman. I'm just using that as an example.

Oh, I see. I thought it was something like, "I saw Legally Blond, I loved her after that."

Mike: I actually never saw that, but, in fact, I've only seen like two movies with her in them.

Adam: What's that movie she's in where she's a total slut?

Kevin: Freeway.

Someone: Free Willy?


No, it was the one with her and Sarah Michelle Gellar?

Mike: Freeway. It has Keifer Southerland in it. Like he picks her up. She's a hitchhiker and she's all screwed up. He tries to sexually molest her, she shoots him in the face, and he has, like, this big fucked-up face lip-thing.

Are you sure that's Reese Whitherspoon?

Mike: Yeah, it's Freeway. And later on, she's in prison, and she takes a toothbrush and wraps it in Saran-Wrap around it, burns it, and shapes it into a knife and stabs someone in the chest?

That wasn't Juliet Lewis or someone else?

Mike: No, no. It was Reese Whiterspoon.

Kevin: So, this conversation is about looking at 12-year-old girls.

Adam: No, it's about heroin.


This interview may raise some "red flags" on the Internet.

Kevin: Yeah, I know.

Adam: We go crazy when we go on tour and do heroin.

Wait, you're not a straightedge band?

Kevin: Oh, we're straightedge. We just do heroin and drink a lot.

Adam: Eat meat.

Kevin: Do 12-year-old girls.

Mike: All I do is drugs. That's all I do. And then I put X's on my hands and say I'm straightedge. And then I go do drugs later and say I'm not straightedge anymore, even though I have them [X's] tattooed on my hands, because I'm a fucking loser.


Ok, I'm going to ask you some lyric-related questions.

Kevin: We can try answering them.

Adam: I'm a real good liar.

Ok. Guy has mentioned he uses everyday things and event as influences when writing lyrics. Books, movies, his dog, whatever.

Adam: His job. Yeah, his dog. He works at a weird pharmacy, slash…

Kevin: He's a short-order cook at a pharmacy.

Adam: Yeah, one of those old-school pharmacies where they make burgers and stuff.


Are you serious?

Adam: He's a short-order cook at a pharmacy. He also sells scratch tickets, does keno, and sells liquor.

Wait, a pharmacy like CVS?

Kevin: Yeah. No.

Adam: Family owned. Like an old-school pharmacy that has three isles of medicine drinks, stuff like that.

Mike: Like piles of malt drinks.

Adam: Yeah. There's like three isles of medicine with dust on it. Some stools where he makes some food. The other side's got some liquor. They've got scratch tickets, keno.

Mike: Outside nearby the building, they've got a mental home. And there's like something else crazy going on.

Kevin: Basically, a lot of the songs come from the mental people that come from the home, and go into his work, and sit there. And the guy just sits there and talks all day, every day.

Adam: He interviewed them one time.

Mike: Yeah.

Adam: He's got an interview somewhere.

Mike: Some guy that talks about…he taped over it by accident. But some guy who talks about how he has no penis. He says the best line ever. He says (old man impression) "I used to have a penis. It came from heaven, and it went to hell!!"


But he accidentally taped over it. The guy is…amazing.

It's a damn shame. I would've like to have heard that.

Adam: Yeah, it was great.

Do you think, aside from those personal events, do things at a macro scale affect his lyrics? Say, 9/11 or the war with Iraq? Would he ever write something about that?

Adam: I don't think he would.

Kevin: No.

Mike: No.

Why not?

Kevin: He's only affected by things that are stupid, because he's an idiot? I don't know.

Mike: I don't think he'd write something about that, because…

Adam: It would be his personal opinion, and we all have different views on that.

Mike: I mean, there is certain things, if he were to write a song that directly opposed a belief of mine, I wouldn't say "I don't want to play the song." It's sort of like, his lyrics do sort of talk about things we agree on, like the selfishness of people. Things like that. You know, things that well sort of…whatever. I'm not giving a good explanation because I don't write the lyrics.

It's all right.

Mike: That's my interpretation, I guess, of his stuff.

Adam: I like Guy's lyrics. They're interesting.

Mike: I like them.

Kevin: They're interesting. They make no sense.

Adam: No, they do make sense to me.

Mike: They make sense, just not to a lot of people.

Adam: I like Guy. He has nice teeth.

Someone: He does.

Adam: Man, there are some obscenities being yelled back, over yonder.

Let's see, how about stuff outside of The Red Chord. Guy and Kevin had Mosh Etiquette going on...

Kevin: Uh…

But not anymore, right?

All: No, no. That was a long time ago.

Kevin: That was a few years ago.

Mike: I wrote a few reviews for it. They were harsh and they ripped CDs apart.

Adam: I went to the website a few times.

Kevin: We were very, very strict on reviews, and barely gave anyone higher than a seven. So, it was like, if you made it any higher than a seven, you were like amazing.

Mike: You are amazing if you have our approval.

Kevin: 'Cause, I mean, we're The Red Chord!


You're the end all of opinions.

Mike: Mark in, like, parentheses or whatever that that's a tongue-and-cheek comment.

Guy mentioned that he wanted to do his own fanzine at some point. Is that something he's still considering?

Adam: Guy wants to do a lot of things. Seriously, he's like the busiest kid I've ever met. He has so many aspirations and goals.

Mike: He'll probably do them all eventually, but he's probably not going to do the 'zine thing for a while.

Black Market Activities Records…

Adam: It's just Black Market Activities. It's kind of like a whole conglomeration. He's [Guy] kind of doing the label. I'm going to use it as the moniker for my design stuff. In the future, we hope to bring more into it. You know, we're open to do whatever.

When/why did you guys decide to start this label?

Adam: I don't know. We just always wanted to. My time in this band, I've learned a lot about how record labels work, and you know, it's interesting. I'd like to give it a shot. It's going to start off as a hobby. If it gets bigger and bigger, that's cool. If not, then…

(Someone burps)

You know, you can make that a sound clip.

Kevin: Really?

Adam: Hey, Every Time I Die had sound clips. We want sound clips.

Mike: I scream.

Make a sound clip.

Mike: My throat hurts.


C'mon man.

Mike: That's a sound clip. "My throat hurts."

Adam: I can scream like a little girl. AAAAAAHHHHHHH!


Haha. Ok. We may have to break that apart. I can actually FTP it to Alex.

Mike: Wait, I've got a sound clip. (Does beat-box beat)

I'll have difficulty translating that.

Mike: People can download that, and then they can use it as the sound as they open Microsoft Word, or if they have a Mac and open some Mac program. And it'll go, pkok ke pkok ke ke peh pkok. Isn't that cool?


Kevin: That's awesome.

Ok. I will make that a sound clip, and then we'll post it. Just like the Every Time I Die.

Mike: Or you can do this-pff che pff pff-pff. You can use that one too.

These are all like different beats.

Mike: These are all copyrighted, but you can use them.


What are they? House? Jungle?


*Click here for audio*

Mike: I can't really do jungle stuff. Pat from Premonitions [of War] can do jungle like nobody. But I can't do it yet. I'm practicing.

Adam: Aww, here comes Paul.

Someone: Where's my penis?!

Someone else: It's next to my penis.

Someone else: Or next to the vagina.

Someone: Where the fuck are my goddamn, fucking…

Kevin: You guys are ruining our interview with Lambgoat.

Someone: An interview with Lambgoat?

Paul and Andy: Fuck you, and fuck Lambgoat!!


Paul/Andy: It's the worst site ever!

Kevin: They're ruining our interview with Lambgoat!

Paul: I FUCK UP!!!!

Someone: Hey, were you [Andy from ETID] in the last one?

No, Andy wasn't in the last one.

Adam: You can be in this one.

Andy, is there anything you want to say anything to cover the last ETID interview?

Andy: What was the last question?

(indescernable/jumbled responses)

Andy: Is that what he said?

Adam: Can I do a message board…

(more jumbled talk)

Andy: Ask me a question.

Ok, first you've got to say your name, and then talk, because it'll make it easier when I type this out (no one listens).

(Andy laughs hysterically)

Andy: It was in there.


"What about in terms of designing the record…" Is this one? Did you guys answer this one?

All: Yes. We already did that one.

Adam: Pretend you're me.

Andy: Ah, fuck that.

Someone: How about a better question…

Andy: Alright. "In terms of designing the record"…

All: We already did that one, too.

Andy: You didn't ask ME this.


Go down. How about this? What are you guys going to do to rectify the fact that your last record was green AND red?

Andy: Green and red?

Yeah. The cover.

Andy: We're gonna fucking set shit on fire. Like, you're going to light it, and it comes on fire.

Someone: Every Time I Suck dick…

No, I want it one color.

Andy: That's why it's called "Hot Damn." It's like a bunch of colors. If you light it on fire, the CD itself is actually CD proof, or burn proof.

(More people join the conversation)

Fat Pat: I got a joke.

Ok, Rich. Why are you back here in New York City?

Rich: Because L.A. fucking sucks.

So, you don't work for [whatever company in] L.A. anymore?

Rich: No. Bi-coastal dude. Wherever you want me to work, I'll work.

So you're booking shows for CBGBs again?

Rich: Back with a vengeance.

Pat: No, wait, I gotta tell my joke.

Alright, this is Pat.

Pat: Did you guys hear about the French machine guns that are on sale on eBay? From World War II?

(No's and yes's)

Never used, only dropped once.

(laughter and "Oh's")

How about this? I heard Jack Osbourne likes ETID according to the message board.

Andy: Yeah. It's true.

Is he producing the record?

Andy: He's not producing the shit. He guest vocals on it.

Are you lying?


Andy: [indiscernible]…lie. What the fuck, man?

Kevin: Him? Lie?

Andy: We flew him out.

Mike: Doesn't he guest vocal on it, too?

Andy: Well, he just kind of…yeah.

(random chatter and laughter)

Mike: Didn't he come down and take you guys on tour? And then you went partying in every country ever?

Andy: Yeah.

Someone: We gotta go guys.

See you later. Hey, let me ask you something. Every Time I Die gets a lot of shit on the message board.

Andy: Ha. No shit.

What do you think about that? For real?

Andy: For real?

Yeah. Do you not care?

Andy: Me personally? I don't give a shit. I don't like threats.

What about Gainesville Fest? There were rumors going on…

Someone: Festivals are for faggots!!! Just so you know.

That someone gave directions to beat up kids that post on Lambgoat.

Andy: All we did is said, "If you post on Lambgoat, raise your hand." And then when they said "Yeah," then we said, "Ok, that's your target."

Someone: Ohhhh, straight from the mouth.

Wow, no love. No love.

Andy: No, nothing personal against Lambgoat.

(more random chatter and laughter)

Nothing personal against Lambgoat, man. Just the kids, just the kids, man. Say10ordie.


Oh, you're naming names!

Andy: Yeah, say10ordie. Fuck that dude.

Adam: I want a piece of crossfire. He said some shit about us. You want my mom to die? You don't fuck with my mom!

Oh, you guys are name-dropping. That's good.

Adam: I've got that kid's phone number. I just haven't called him yet.

Andy: Dudes in Raleigh, North Carolina said they're going to come and beat us up.

Someone: Do you want Chad's, from New Found Glory, phone number?

Adam: All right, give it to me.

Kevin: Yo, let's tell everyone on Lambgoat what Chad from New Found Glory's phone number is.

Andy: Dudes in North Carolina wanted to beat us up, and we played like 20 minutes from Raleigh, North Carolina, and no one came to beat me up.

Rich: That's because you guys are good, dude.

Wait, who's from Raleigh?

Andy: Ah, I don't even know the dude's name.

Adam: There's like eight people in Raleigh.

Andy: But supposedly, his sister got beat up because we told the crowd to beat her up or something like that. Which was totally not real, but he said he wanted to beat our ass.

Someone: Dude, that's true.

Someone else: Do you want Chad from New Found Glory's phone number?

Alright, give it to us.

Someone: This is anonymous, though. This is an anonymous post. xxx-xxx-xxxx [phone number omitted to prevent stalking].

Adam: Say you're not in The Red Chord.

Someone: And I'm in The Red Chord.


Adam: He's the singer from The Red Chord.

Duly noted.

Fat Pat: And Fat Pat did not say anything on this, because no one likes him anyway.

(some people leave)

Thanks Rich, thanks Pat.

Adam: Alright, we have to load the van, so we should finish this.

Alright. What kind of bands are you looking at for the new label?

Adam: Bands that we enjoy and believe and think will do well. We're doing the Backstabbers, Inc. discography. We're doing the Found Dead Hanging record. They're absolutely brutal and crushing. And Dead Water Drowning from New Hampshire.

What was it about Found Dead Hanging that [appealed to you?]…

Adam: Found Dead Hanging, we just played with a bunch of times. And we're friends with them. And they put on a awesome show. They needed someone to put out their record, and we said "Hey, we'll do it." Dead Water Drowning, I think they gave us a demo at Hellfest.

Kevin: Yeah, the only demo we listen to all the time.

Adam: Yeah. We actually remembered them and we live somewhat close by. We started to talking to them and things just sort of worked out.

Do you guys actually listen to all the demos you get?

Kevin: Actually we do. One of our shows, it was after Hellfest. Where were we? I don't know where it was, but we were behind the club we were playing. We showed up early, we shoved in all these CDs, and the only good one that came out was Dead Water Drowning.

I've actually heard their name from around somewhere.

Adam: Yeah, they're just really good. They're really fucking good.

Would you release any limited edition Red Chord material for collector geeks on the label?

Adam: We might. We've talked about it. There's talk about doing a self-released four-song EP of covers and stuff. A low-key thing just for fun.

Mike: Shhhhh…

Adam: I mean, we're not made of money. You know, it all depends on that. This is all coming out of our own pocket.

How about other projects outside of The Red Chord? Beyond the Sixth Seal.

Adam: Beyond the Sixth Seal.

Kevin: I think it's just Beyond the Sixth Seal.

Adam: Oh, Candy Stryper Death Orgy.

Kevin: Candy Stryper Death Orgy. Mike's…

Can you say that again?

Both: Candy Stryper Death Orgy.

Kevin: They've been around for 14 years, and Mike is the youngest person in the band, obviously. And the other two members could be his father.

Is that "Stryper" with a Y, like the Christian hair-metal band?

Adam/Kevin: Yes.

Adam: They're thrash metal. A thrash band.

You said earlier that Red Chord is basically all you have going on. But you guys hold down jobs, right?

Kevin: We all have jobs.

Adam: I do freelance stuff, and I live at home. So I don't have many bills.

Kevin: I make batteries for the Navy.

Haha. Ok. And we know Guy is the short-order cook.

Kevin: Gunface works for CompUSA, and Mike [drummer] works overnight at Target. So it's very hard to get up in the morning when we have shows and stuff.

Adam: Yeah. I sell a lot of stuff on eBay, and I never have any money.

What else do you guys do outside of music, just to kill time.

Adam: Sleep. Sleeping is awesome.

You guys play videogames.

Kevin: I play videogames. I take off work to play videogames. I'll stay up until five in the morning, I'll wake up at 10 in the morning, and then I'll play videogames until my eyes are ready to pop out of my head. That's about it.

How about certain bands you guys are into right now? I read you guys are into a lot of Czech metal bands.

Adam: Gunface is into that. Contrastic.

Kevin: Yeah, Contrastic.

Adam: I think we're all into them. I'm on a huge Entombed kick. All I listen to is Entombed now.

Kevin: I've been listening to a lot of Crowbar, Opeth, and Type O Negative. I have no favorite bands. I'll go through periods where I'll listen to CDs over and over again, so I can't really answer that straight-up. I know Guy loves Suffocation. Devourment.

Well, that's pretty much all we have. Is there anything you want to plug? Maybe something we may have missed?

Adam: Going on tour April 19 thorugh Metalfest with Bleeding Through and Himsa. After Metalfest…

Kevin: June 21 through Hellfest…

Adam: Hellfest, with Premonitions of War and Dead Water Drowning. And Beyond the Sixth Seal is going on tour with A Life Once Lost after Metalfest.

Ok. Cool. Thanks for your time. I really appreciate it. You guys were awesome tonight.

Adam: Thank you.

Kevin: Thank you……we sucked.



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