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All Shall Perish interview

By Alex
All Shall Perish INTERVIEW

Drummer Matt Kuykendall was nice enough to take some time out to let Lambgoat catch up with everything All Shall Perish while the band is hard at work writing what will eventually become its fourth full-length.

So "Awaken The Dreams" has been out for about a year now and you guys recently completed the Night Of The Living Shred headlining tour here in the States. How has response been from fans, for the record, and for folks out on the road who might've come to see any of the other bands (Born of Osiris, After The Burial, Caliban, Suffokate) that might not know All Shall Perish?

That tour was the shit; seriously it was one of the best times I have ever had on tour. The reactions have been unreal this past year! We wanted to bring bands on that tour that we really liked and the response to the whole package was nuts. As far as the reaction for us over the last year across the world...well, we didn't really know what to expect when we put out "Awaken the Dreamers." With a bit of a diverse record on our hands, in a scene that is constantly changing direction, I am still surprised how fucking awesome the response has been.

Speaking of that tour, what is your take on the American scene nowadays? Especially since Caliban was playing fourth on that tour. ..I think on the last record they did a headlining tour whenever that was...maybe like two years ago.

Never being a 'hype' band here in the states has made us tour all over the world a lot more than the average band and gave us a really objective view of the states. The American scene is just a lot more trendy and fast-paced than the rest of the world; waves of bands become popular overnight and then in a few years they are gone. Caliban is a great example of the European metal scene and the paradox of the States. I've been listening to that band since 2001, they have been around for 10-plus years, they are a major headlining act in Europe, they have been coming to the states since '02 and when they played that year's Hellfest, kids were stoked as fuck. Fast forward to '09 and four US tours later and they are playing second on our tour...why? Well I'm sure haters have their opinion and fans have theirs as well but anyway you look at it the States are cutthroat and a bit fickle. I say in the States, you're always one record away from blowing up or falling off. Hell, look at Underoath! They were kinda small for three records or so and then all of the sudden: new singer, new songs: GOLD record! It's the only American dream left these days. Pantera even put out a few records before they switched up their sound, dropped "Cowboys From Hell" and just exploded.

Speaking of Caliban coming over here: Is that just a difference of scenes, or is being a band touring in a foreign country just harder work, since All Shall Perish hits Europe in January and February as the opening act alongside Bleeding Through, Hatebreed, and Machine Head?

I couldn't imagine being a Euro band and coming over to the States. The States are much harder to tour for mostly all reasons, other than 24 hour Walmarts. One of the biggest differences is that most European fans stick with you whether you are foreign or not. Touring over there, you really see the steps you take as a band pay off, whereas in the States you can be on top of the world one moment and yesterday's news the next. Also the conditions of touring are completely different. The US is typically vans, tight budgets, no catering, no showers at venues, and promoters who, a lot of the time, care more about how many paid than how shitty their sound system is or if their bands are being loaded out into the rain. Europe is the total opposite, especially for metal, which is just taken a lot more seriously out there. You have cheap double-decker buses that can house three bands, showers at 90% of all venues, and holy shit – the catering, even at the smallest shows, will be exactly what you request. Sound systems, sound guys, promoter treatment, and venues are just typically better over there. The US is far more convenient, though, in terms of commerce, and it's home, so I love it. And even though it's better to tour out there, I would never live in Europe.

Do you ever end up listening too many of the bands that might open up for All Shall Perish. I mean we all know the opening bands are not the draw and they're probably selling tickets to play, but there have to be a few good ones out there, right? Any memorable ones that you guys ended up liking and listening to?

A band from Germany called Shake The Pagoda Tree really blew us away when they opened for us. Kids are super talented these days and we may not end up liking a ton of bands, but we consistently see skills that impress the shit out of us from opening acts all over the world; the bar would appear to be ever-rising.

And congrats on cracking the Top 200 with "Awaken The Dreamers" back when it came out. Do you think that's a sign of All Shall Perish as a recognizable name, your guys' constant touring, a solid promotional push for this record, or a little bit of everything?

A culmination of the last seven years for sure. We have been around for a little bit now and we have a fan base that has stuck with us through the rollercoaster trends of the US market. Nuclear Blast is also one of the best labels around; they really believe in their bands and that reflects in their marketing.

And how did it feel when you guys found out first week numbers?

We were very stoked, even though we found out almost 1,000 digital sales didn't get counted in the first week's finals, but either way it was a solid release and to be in a metal band and chart on Billboard simply rules! Yeah, it may be due to the decline in major record sales over the last 10 years but it is also a testament to the underground's commitment to supporting their scene even in an age of easy downloading. Our record leaked three full weeks beforehand!

And on the third album, a time when some Lambgoaters might say, 'Eh, I liked their first two albums better...' or something. What made you guys decide to incorporate more experimentation? The clean vocals actually work and aren't Fall Out Boy whiny metalcore vocals, and it seems like there's a lot more tasteful shred this time around, especially "From So Far Away."

No care ever. We always write whatever we want, and each record has reflected that their respective diversity. One thing I am very grateful for is the ever-broadening minds of today's metal fans, especially the youngins. I always enjoy when bands branch out – for better or worse – and only a few bands can get away with writing the same record for 20 years. Let's face it, singing IS metal: Priest, Maiden, Slayer, Pantera, Metallica – the greats have all sang to varying degrees and I think only tech-metal diehards or grindcore purists think it should never be done in metal. From Opeth to Lamb of God, melodic vocals, to some degree, gives the music a little more depth. Don't get me wrong, there are a myriad of bands that only scream that I love, we just didn't want to limit ourselves on our third record in any way. In fact, we wanted to take our music to the extremes of our influences and melodic vocals were part of that. The shred was...well, a bit over done on the last record for sure; we had a very shredtastic voice in the band at the time, but now we have Jrich aka Jason Richardson who is an unbelievable shredmaster but a little bit more choosey in his load-blowing moments. The funny thing is, I don't even know how much singing will really be on the next record since everything we have been writing thus far has been a lot heavier than the last one, but again, we aren't going to let whatever the 'safe' thing to do would be dictate the sound of our record.

Okay, I have to ask. You get a baseball hat for Christmas. It's from your aunt, but it's something really dorky like a hat from the credit card company she works at for getting 10,000 bonus points or whatever, and she is expecting to see you wear it when you get together Christmas Day. Do you curve the bill, or leave it flat?

Kill the aunt, burn the tree, smoke some trees, drink a Pepsi while rocking the hat suicidal style flipped up with some upside-down crosses drawn underneath.

Ha ha. Okay, well speaking of Christmas. What's on your guys' list? Collectively or individually. At least you guys are at home through Thanksgiving and Christmas, right?

The new Mario, Modern Warfare 2, Ducati 1098s, two chicks at the same time, a case of Blue Moon and a bag of Blue Dream.

Well, it's that time of year...What have you guys been listening to this year? Bring on the hoopla.

Animals as Leaders, Project Pat, Despised Icon, Steel Panther, Opeth.

Guilty pleasures, though? God knows the Lambgoat news and message boards are rife with people with plenty of them. Everyone is usually just too hard to admit it. Unless it's Deftones...then it's okay somehow. Feel free to lend a hand in explaining that too if you'd want.

We always wore our guilty pleasures on our sleeves in any interview we have ever done. From hip hop to indie and pop, to death metal, we listen to a lot of different shit on the regular. But for some fodder for the "faggot" comments, let's see.... Panic, Paramore, The Smiths, AFI, Taking Back Sunday and Deathcab [For Cutie] have all been enjoyed in the van. As far as the Deftones phenomenon, I can't explain it. That band crosses so many musical boundaries it's unreal...just a unique band that transcended the trends of their time and became an accepted band in so many scenes that it can be weird to most people if you don't like them.

If you could ask one Lambgoater a question, what would it be?

Do you, in fact, not care ever that Emmure is not on this faggoty flip-needing interview?

[Laughs] If you could ask one Lambgoat owner/editor one question, what would it be?

What are your top five favorite Lambgoat comments? Or: How does it feel to own the site where news of a person's death spawns the comment "Awesome news, shitty band"? As a side note, our personal favorite ASP comment on Lambgoat was "put yourselves through your 'shit filter' and BREAK UP!" [Laughs] Still gets me every time.

And finally, can we expect to see you guys back here Stateside after the European tour or are you guys already tossing around the idea of another writing/recording session already?

We are balls deep in the writing for our new record, which is scheduled for a summer 2010 release. We are also fresh off a sick ass Ibanez endorsement and will be switching to eight-fucking-string guitars on the new one, so be prepared for some low-ass fucking mad heavy groove; this is gonna be the fun one!


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anonymous 2/14/2010 1:30:26 AM

Why do bands feel the need to brag about writing their next album on an 8-string? Stop doing that. It's not a big deal.

blahblahbigballs_ 2/14/2010 10:07:38 AM

oooooo 8 strings, just like every other band now is doing.

Pat_ 2/14/2010 9:34:38 PM

I need to return some video tapes.

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Chris Storey_ 2/16/2010 10:57:55 AM

I liked you guys better when I was in the band. I play 8 string so much better

trophy_ 2/16/2010 2:15:00 PM

"just line up 'em up to the grid, man."

kevinjalmax_ 2/22/2010 9:26:46 AM

niggas got minneapolis on lock.

JWerk09_ 3/25/2010 1:12:27 AM

this band is just like all the other death metal grindcore hey lets put a million sweeps in our music band. I can't handle it, people need to come out with something original cause I am sick of this crap

AaronForBattle_ 5/8/2010 10:16:09 AM

eddie's vocals r beast