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The Black Dahlia Murder singer calls out 'fans' who steal his band's music

Thu, April 18, 2013 6:39 AM PT

The Black Dahlia Murder frontman Trevor Strnad recently took to Facebook to stress the importance of album sales for his band (you can find his remarks below). Though his initial post apparently caused a bit of a backlash among some fans, which Strnad attempted to rectify via an update, his original point is solid. I see no reason to delete it or backtrack. Basically, any "fan" that doesn't completely empathize with Strnad is an asshole.

Post 1 "HOW IT IS: We have almost 1,000,000 likes on here. Will we sell 1,000,000 copies of Everblack? Fuck no! The reality is that 98% of you 'fans' are going to be content to steal the album and in turn we get nothing… a laughable fragment of the 'likers' will actually be cool and pick it up.

"It's not about the money, the reality is that we get chump change for CD (and digital) sales BUT WE NEED TO SELL THEM TO EXIST! If there are no record sales the music industry will stomp us out like a bug and it'll be completely over… the sales show them 'how relevant' we are.

"If you don't buy the albums they'll determine that there is no demand for TBDM, and there won't be any more awesome concerts, tours, dvds nor new music. Sure we understand you may really love our tunes, but if you haven't paid for them, it's a total loss to us… all the love in the world isn't going to mean shit in the end. We need your support and every two years I am going to ask the same thing of you and make the same goddamn argument.

"Think of it like a vote… If you'd like to see us continue our reign of terror over the metal world, you'll pick up a copy of "Everblack". It's as simple as that. – Trevor on behalf of The Black Dahlia Murder"

Post 2 "Clarification for the alarmists: I'm not saying you who come to the shows and buy merch aren't appreciated… what I am saying is that we need to sell this album because each sale means something in the grand scheme of things. WE ARENT FUCKING RICH. I don't really care if we see ANY money from the preorders or any CD sale AT ALL… like I said…. it's literally a fraction of a penny per album… you can fucking keep it.

"WE MAKE THE MONEY WE SURVIVE ON FROM YOU ALL COMING TO THE SHOWS AND BUYING TICKETS AND MERCH. We are eternally grateful for your support in this manner. This is absolutely true and has not changed. What I am saying is that we need BOTH kinds of support… they are both integral. All I was trying to do is to rally the troops… to help them understand that selling the copies IS important to us… it was not an attempt to alienate anyone. I should have worded things better…. yes.

"For those of you saying that the industry is operating on a completely archaic model… I completely wholeheartedly agree… but until things change this is how it is."

Post 3 "I want to apologize to any of you guys that were bummed out by my frustrated, overly aggressive, and pessimistic posts yesterday. Me and the guys are eternally grateful for all of you and your support, whatever form. THANK YOU! We'll see you this Summer and beyond…"



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anonymous 4/18/2013 6:52:21 AM

what a pssy. stop whining, quit your band, and get a real job you can thank me later


anonymous 4/18/2013 6:53:53 AM

Truth. Buy shit kiddos. First


anonymous 4/18/2013 6:53:53 AM

Leave your label and start crowdfunding. simple as that.


anonymous 4/18/2013 6:56:03 AM

He's right.


anonymous 4/18/2013 6:59:58 AM

You know you're a gay when you're complaining about people downloading music in 2013.


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:01:48 AM

Quit prancing around on stage like a queer and maybe more people will buy your music.


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:04:54 AM

Leave TBDM alone!!!


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:07:35 AM

i will personally mail a bootlegged version of your cd to every one of your fans if that means you will "cease to exist."


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:08:13 AM

what if we dont like you?


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:09:17 AM

Band rules, fck you all.


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:17:49 AM

Metallica is stoked, also he can fck himself. There's no money in metal and they have maybe one good album there's so many bands better than them that make a fraction of what they make and are still alive and kicking.


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:18:47 AM

don't sign to a label then you fcking idiot.


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:22:38 AM

so all I one has to do is NOT buy the albums and this band will go away?? seems simple enough...


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:27:38 AM

why shouldn't artists get paid for something they worked hard for? all you internet pussies and keyboard warriors are the ones that need to get real jobs.


shreves 4/18/2013 7:31:31 AM

they made me bend over and open my butthole or some shit?


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:34:56 AM

Never have a shit about this band. Now it's a guarantee I will share their torrent until the cows come home. Get those Burger King applications together, homie.


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:39:29 AM

has this album leaked yet?


i_talk_shit 4/18/2013 7:47:18 AM

You know the music world is littered with complete unappreciative jerks when you have to complain about people stealing your music in 2013. However using the word "integral" went right over his fan's heads.


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:51:03 AM

Hes merely sayin that if you dont purchase the album. Record labels and booking agents will think there is no demand for tbdm in your town. So theyll send asking alexandria instead or bmth. People that arent in bands or have no friends in the music biz are fcking clueless. If you steal from a business, itll will go under...i.e. FYE, SAM GOODY, your local record store if youre a real fan of music. BUY THE SHIT


bees 4/18/2013 7:59:39 AM

If you're still complaining about people downloading music in 2013, you're fcking up hard. Nothing worse than "giants" like Metallica, LoG and TBDM complaining about record sales when there are so many other bands who are struggling way harder than they are. Perhaps just cop-out and pull a Misery Signals where you fund your album on kickstarter so you can stop complaining? You're a -core band, you're not gonna sell a ton, record companies know this.


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:18:45 AM

im about to download all of your albums now and then delete them after hating them


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:19:17 AM

http://www55.zippyshare.co m/v/25251005/file.html


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:30:30 AM

When did this dude turn into the gay singer from Norma Jean?


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:31:18 AM

Complaining about people pirating is dumb. Fortunately he was complaining about people not buy albums, which is a little different. *already has Everblack pre-ordered*


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:31:37 AM

This is the most reasonable argument against downloading I've heard from a band so far. I completely agree with him. I still buy a lot of my music (pre-ordered Everblack on vinyl) and download some stuff sometimes too. But I'm still one of those old school people who likes holding the actual CD. I have no problems with what he said or how he said it. He used a TV ratings-type argument which makes a ton of sense.


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:33:47 AM

If a band that's not as relevant as TBDM points this out that needs the money more, even less people will take notice because the band isn't as important. It's a good point, if you really like the band then you'll support them and buy the album.


LoydChristmas 4/18/2013 8:38:26 AM

betting money right now that the next BDM album will be crowd-sourced. damn, not a single cory branden comment yet.


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:46:42 AM

make better albums, gay.


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:59:27 AM

For the "1,000,000" that don't matter, which could just be spambot's because I don't know what the fck you are recording, anyways you shit on your fan's and your material is overrated you shit show at Hot Topic. I hope your fcking van flips into a lake of viper's and gold. fcking little jew.


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:03:34 AM

Wowwww bunch of fckin imbeciles. You anonymous jerks have no clue how anything works in the music industry. Don't sign to a label? You don't know shit about being a signed band. Do you think they would sign to a label if they knew it would eventually put them in debt? If you stupid fckers don't buy bands music then don't expect to see them tour ever


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:06:19 AM

Merch and ticket sales are not as vital as cd sells (not that they aren't important cause it helps the band get to the next state and be able to eat everyday of tour) cause when its time for Nielsen scoundscans that determines how much the label actually is willing to help and promote them if you're selling shit or not.


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:07:42 AM

They have loads of shit to pay for. Merch which breaks double digits in the thousands, recording costs which is also in the thousands, maintenance of the band vehicle, equipment etc. and for for bands who tour in buses it's up to $2000 a night The bands aren't worried about the money for themselves they are more worried about being able to make more music for their fans.


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:10:27 AM

All you dipshits knocking their music probably listen to gay shit like Emmure and Attila. And all you ignorant fcks posting torrents I hope you get a virus you pieces of shit.


OrgCore 4/18/2013 9:10:40 AM

"If you'd like to see us continue our reign of terror over the metal world" That phrase is the most cringe worthy part. Using a phrase like "reign of terror" to talk about your music and or popularity is cheesy at best.


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:10:47 AM

I have to buy food and other shit before I can buy your "death metal" album so excuse me for being an jerk, ask satan for help


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:12:21 AM

They have loads of shit to pay for. Merch which breaks double digits in the thousands, recording costs which is also in the thousands, maintenance of the band vehicle, equipment etc. and for for bands who tour in buses it's up to $2000 a night The bands aren't worried about the money for themselves they are more worried about being able to make more music for their fans.


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:16:34 AM

^^^^^ at least i didn't hear of emmure complaining...


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:19:14 AM

the irony is id be more then willing to bet that if you looked at their mac book pros, your probably going to find downloaded and illegal music, just saying... don't fcking bullshit a bullshitter


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:30:43 AM

Also Emmure lies on scoundscans dumbass shows how much you know


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:36:37 AM

look tards, it has nothing to do with profits like he's saying. What this really has to do with is the label keeping track of sales and the parallels that has with the bands margins for label support and funding. Stop dropping knowledge about the music industry when you actually have no fcking clue. Thanks, Sincerely BA in Music Business/MBA in management


loaf 4/18/2013 9:41:15 AM

But I don't want to buy or steal your albums, guy


ed_money 4/18/2013 9:42:51 AM

Regardless of if any single person pirates the bands albums, nobody likes listens to or buys this bands albums.


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:51:35 AM

See gentlemen what we have here is a class 5ba column 2.3 Label Stress. Time and time again we see a band tirelessly paying back album advances and loan's on hot pocket's, Flaming Hot Cheetos's and Marijuana. In unfortunately in this case Marijuana still can't get me high enough to forget everything after Miasma. Cry me a river old man metal.


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:54:17 AM

This whole thing suck's. Black Dahlia use to be so good. The principle is not whether they are good it's what they have been doing.


AnalButt 4/18/2013 9:56:23 AM

You don't think record companies monitor the amount of times their music is "stolen"? Good god, all they have to do is look at the pirating site and see how many downloads it has and they can determine the band's relevancy. But i agree, arguing about "stealing" music in 2013 is retarded.


anonymous 4/18/2013 9:56:57 AM

We can settle this over Isis, pizza and 28 day's later.


anonymous 4/18/2013 10:16:55 AM

what about spotify and deezer? put your shit up on there...at least you'll be compensated even if its next to nothing.


anonymous 4/18/2013 10:47:03 AM

suck it, c*ntflap. http://thepiratebay.se/tor rent/7556864/The_Black_Dah lia_Murder_Discography_%5B 2002-2011%5D


forumdrama 4/18/2013 10:56:00 AM

He's 100% correct on this. For bands, sales aren't about money. It's about how long they get to have a career. Sales are what labels, managers, booking agents, and everyone else in between who has any invested interest in your career look to to decide how much time they're going to keep spending on you. The catch 22 for me is that I, at the same time, don't want to help the pigs who run the labels are on and make them super rich while their artists still struggle.


anonymous 4/18/2013 11:04:29 AM

next fundraiser campaign?


anonymous 4/18/2013 11:36:29 AM

look at all the nobodies telling them to quit above ^ the sad thing is, thinking he might read your comments is the highlight of your sad lives cause most of you will never do anything with your lives, stop using your mom's wifi and get in the real world


anonymous 4/18/2013 11:45:14 AM

LOL at the BA in music mgmt/MBA guy, how is phoenix online school treating you? Also, playing in a touring band is a privilege, be grateful more than ten kids go out to see your show you entitled fcks. If you are sick of making pennies, quit and make room for others who actually want to make music (instead of money).


anonymous 4/18/2013 11:46:07 AM

maybe if they stopped focusing on putting out an album every 6 months their grubby little teenage fans would have enough money saved up from their paper routes to actually buy their albums.


anonymous 4/18/2013 11:57:21 AM

who fcking cares? TBDM are releasing over and over again the same fckin' album.


anonymous 4/18/2013 12:18:30 PM

What a fcking crybaby. CD prices have been the same for a decade despite recession and we as fans are in the wrong? fck this whiney bitch and his shitty band. If rappers can change with the times, put out free music and continue making money, so can you prick.


anonymous 4/18/2013 12:59:26 PM

I love the age entitlement. I can STEAL music so I will cause I deserve it! Cause I am me! Think if these dudes sat next to you on the corner you suck all your dcks and started giving it away for FREE!!! You would starve and your pimp would beat the shit out of you. TBDM needs to get off the label t-t and start crowd funding and moving into the new millennium. Just don't expect the band to visit your shit fcking town cause they will only be able to sustain off of festivals, and big shows.


StrikeLastFaceFirst 4/18/2013 1:18:40 PM

"maybe if they stopped focusing on putting out an album every 6 months their grubby little teenage fans would have enough money saved up from their paper routes to actually buy their albums." *band puts out album every two years* *15 year old has no concept of time* *kills self* (hopefully)


genghisjohn 4/18/2013 1:26:56 PM

Plenty of money will be made on Warped. Problem solved


anonymous 4/18/2013 1:44:23 PM

Maybe if your band would stop stealing from venues then I would give a shit about what you say.


anonymous 4/18/2013 2:09:34 PM

maybe if you put shit worth buying, people would buy it. stop being a sore ass gay about shit.


anonymous 4/18/2013 2:43:04 PM

Touring isn't a privilege. Let me throw your 20yr old ass in a van 8 months out of the year. Trust me trying to keep a personal life together at home while almost never being there is a fcking challenge. I was on the road for 2 months and trust me I was ready to go the fck home to my lady and my own bed. I'm sure all you young guns don't understand that ,but when you turn 30 something you might start to figure it out.


anonymous 4/18/2013 3:06:13 PM

SOOOO WAIT... You jerks are coming up on your 6th full length and your complaining about how you need more sales in order to keep touring? ...WHY THE fck KEEP TOURING?? its fcking 2013 not the fcking 80's. what do you want to tour like areosmith for 50 years? ya fck that noise. Call it quits while you still have a good name.


anonymous 4/18/2013 3:21:43 PM

trevor strnad is a fcking alcoholic gay who can't scream for shit and him and his butt boys overcharge merch like crazy like 40 bucks for a hoodie when its costs 10 to 12 to make if u know screen printing so fck him and his band STEAL THE NEW ALBUM


anonymous 4/18/2013 4:09:07 PM

Wooooow. I "Liked" them because I gave a shit about their first two albums musically, but I met them all in 2005 and 2006, and those guys are fcking PRICKS. I unliked them altogether after this post, bands like this can eat a sack of dcks. If you don't want to fall by the wayside, THEN BE BETTER AT WHAT YOU DO


anonymous 4/18/2013 4:13:07 PM

if you don't like touring or making music then fcking quit. I don't see how crying and saying "you 20 year olds playing w/ your dcks don't understand shit." There are plenty of more great bands willing to fill the void. Seriously, if you want to make money: 1) sell your cds for $1 independently; 2) make taylor swift music; 3) get a real job. When has DEMANDING that people pay you for your product every worked for anyone?


anonymous 4/18/2013 5:18:11 PM

later to find out, these posts were from lars ulrich, still trying to preach the good word. fck YOU LARS.


anonymous 4/18/2013 5:26:11 PM

You're a death metal band. You sing about statutory beat and necrophilia. Do you think anyone in the music industry will ever care about you. If you want to be on the billboard top 10, become a rapper. Its as If they called it Everblack because they wanted the record to be bigger than the black album.


anonymous 4/18/2013 6:13:00 PM

Hey 20yr old shitheel. He didn't say that...I did ya fck.


anonymous 4/18/2013 6:38:41 PM

When you're band gets signed to a label like metal blade you really don't have a choice to do it part time and keep some kind of backup plan going. You have to dive in balls fcking deep. I fcking love cheeseburgers but that doesn't mean if I had to eat them for every meal I would get burned out on it sometimes. Touring gets hard sometimes when you do it like these dudes. unless your just a GIANT jerk who just wants to be famous and couldn't care less about anything else.


anonymous 4/18/2013 6:45:36 PM

the world goes round.


anonymous 4/18/2013 7:35:28 PM

Seems like your selfish pentagram entity won't pay your bills after all the publicity you have brought him huh? Wake up son.


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:00:54 PM

fck these spoiled suburban Michigan nerds whining about their fantasy lives being in jeopardy. Why don't accept the fact that you are in your 30's and maybe it's time to get a real job and be a real person instead of an old, sad, chubby geek clinging onto his youth.


anonymous 4/18/2013 8:54:29 PM

There are tons of bands who exist and tour without relying on album sales to impress the music industry. Is that really your argument? You want to impress some tour manager and get on a big tour with your sales numbers? And you solution is to whine about it to the people who listen to your music?


anonymous 4/18/2013 10:47:06 PM

funny shit with all the teenage gay c*nts preaching crowdsource, haha you fcking small dcked idiots think 50k is going to pay for fuel to cover the ground these guys play so all you douchebag c*nts can buy a shirt and instagram it to your loser friends? Grow a man penis, it cost them 100grand to play ozzfest at 10am, crowdsourcing can eat a field of dck. PreTeen self appointed pro nothing.


anonymous 4/18/2013 11:07:01 PM

all the clueless haircare tight jean wearing pussies who think theyve got the world figured out is beyond laughable, playing 10 shows that draw 5 people per show makes you a c*nt, not a fine tuned touring band, and having 100 itunes downloads means your still nothing. the fact that theres indiegogo and kickstarter goes to show how much dck you suck that you cant afford to put your own time and money into your music and ask others to take on your financial risk because you have no desire.


anonymous 4/18/2013 11:13:10 PM

LOL at all the 14-22 yr/olds who are so hurt by having to buy a cd. Boo Hoo you pay $500 for your ipad/iphone and think your entitled to the whole world for free. Try signing on to a major tour like Warped/Ozzfest/Mayhem without winning the battle of the bands contest, you'll shit yourself when you cant come up with 100-200grand and 75% of you merch sales totals and cry about how its so not "metal". Finger your oxycotin stuffed girlfriend and take pics, feel likethe scene is you and only you.


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anonymous 4/18/2013 11:29:45 PM

I pay for spotify cuz its convenient however, the Jew bastards that run Metal Blade Records are too stingy to partake in the the new mediums of music distribution. Therefore I will be downloading the new Black Dahlia Murder record. Probably two weeks before it comes out too.


anonymous 4/18/2013 11:52:29 PM

"the Jew bastards that run Metal Blade Records are too stingy to partake in the the new mediums of music distribution. Therefore I will be downloading the new Black Dahlia Murder record." ^ says the text book jew. Happy passover


308 4/19/2013 3:31:18 AM

What a gay, someone get him some tissues.


anonymous 4/19/2013 6:41:15 AM

oh my shit, you can't make a substandard product and then bitch that know one spends $12 on it. stop blaming everyone else for your problems and look at yourselves and what you do. If you are sick of not making any money fcking quit already.


anonymous 4/19/2013 7:37:30 AM

Get a real job you fat fck


SuckMeBeautiful 4/19/2013 7:50:43 AM

oh God, not another one of these....


anonymous 4/19/2013 8:24:24 AM

Vinyl.


anonymous 4/19/2013 3:05:16 PM

Off to the Pirate Bay!


anonymous 4/19/2013 3:36:39 PM

Kickstarter!


anonymous 4/19/2013 4:05:25 PM

What Trevor is really saying is... If you don't buy my albums and my band breaks up my really hot girlfriend will stop fcking me.


anonymous 4/19/2013 4:26:09 PM

"Try signing on to a major tour like Warped/Ozzfest/Mayhem without winning the battle of the bands contest, you'll shit yourself when you cant come up with 100-200grand and 75% of you merch sales totals and cry about how its so not "metal" " Wow no one cares about this superfluous circle jerk shit at all you shitstain fckbag. Go spend 100-200 grand on a university degree so you can give back to society what you've been stealing from it with your complex stupidity.


anonymous 4/19/2013 6:46:59 PM

Trevor is a whiny c*nt, and TBDM is a worthless, not-even-laughable joke at this point. Not even the people who like Melodic Death Metal care about them at this point, and the ones who do STILL download before buying the regurgitated trite they pass off as music probably don't like it. TBDM is a boring, played-out sound that doesn't have a place in today's metal scene. Sorry BDM, but you are worse than background noise right about now


anonymous 4/19/2013 6:49:43 PM

This guy really needs to shut up. I've never purchased/downloaded anything from his band because there were tons of bands in the 90s that did it first and better. I'm not crazy about spreading negativity but maybe if they TRIED to progress even a little I would care about what he has to say.


brokenhero 4/19/2013 7:06:18 PM

im in a shitty fcking band and nobody likes us and never will yet somehow i have no problem booking my own shows. go fck yourself. died after unhallowed


anonymous 4/19/2013 7:51:53 PM

^ 10 people showing up to your local churchs rec room doesnt count, and yes your band sucks uncharted sea's of dck, keep up the good work. Joann's Fabrics has yudu's onsale so you can finally corner in on the merch game.


brokenhero 4/19/2013 8:09:09 PM

4 suburbs references in one post. get a fcking life


anonymous 4/19/2013 8:54:35 PM

^ stop making suck dck music, you big city hustla. You know the church thing was a direct blow to your ego.


anonymous 4/19/2013 8:59:27 PM

Simple as this, if u like these guys then buy it. If u cant afford it then your a kid livin with mom and dad.


anonymous 4/20/2013 12:43:06 AM

I'm going to "steal" this album and never listen to it nor buy /see them live ever again soley off this post. That and because let's face it...TBDM hasn't created a decent album since they've blown up. Hell, their best work came before this shit was most important to them.


anonymous 4/20/2013 1:30:21 AM

Man... why do the most vile type of people come to this site? Nothing but ignorance and hatred in these comments. Trevor is right. If they want to continue, they need support. Support means buying their albums, which every true fan will do.


anonymous 4/20/2013 5:09:48 AM

I guarantee trevor and brian are anonymously commenting multiple times now on this thread


anonymous 4/20/2013 11:46:05 AM

So...you don't give a shit if people buy the album but we should buy the album because you won't tour if no one buys your latest shitty album. Derp.


anonymous 4/20/2013 4:53:39 PM

^^I agree with the Trevor and Brian anonymous posting comment. Also, they do need support to tour- but if they want it they should probably consider putting out a superior product.


anonymous 4/20/2013 8:36:21 PM

"TBDM is a boring, played-out sound that doesn't have a place in today's metal scene. Sorry BDM, but you are worse than background noise right about now" hahaha todays metal is non existant, if you think hair-core bands are metal your clearly a teenager. its hardcore wash up gays who dye there hair black and try to do lows but struggle, struggle to grind, struggle to riff, hundred struggle with speed, but have the breakdowns fcking nailed. Breakdown Teenage BitchCore.


anonymous 4/20/2013 9:25:38 PM

fck Trevor TTEOTD is a better band anyway and their barely a band anymore and you don't hear them complaining


anonymous 4/20/2013 10:04:45 PM

yeah there haircuts are soooo bomb. the have a unique dance when they do breakdowns, and there lyrics are so teenage strife Id sware they are me. Being 16metal is awesomes, so are band names that are so irrelevant they need 5-8 letter abreveations TTEOFDNYPDF. totalz scenez


anonymous 4/20/2013 10:10:26 PM

Through the eyes of the dckhole, class example of scenecore hardcore failure that thinks they are metal or deathmetal, either you are or you arent, if your trying, you already lost the game. Its the music c*ntbag, not the image that you pump all your time into.


anonymous 4/20/2013 10:22:01 PM

Talk all the shit about TBDM that you want but they influence 90 percent of the newer metal bands today in one way or the other and, aside from that the musicianship on their albums is always flawless, especially Miasma .jst took it in a new direction drum wise, riff wise, they are one of the only bands that hasnt slowed down or changed their direction


anonymous 4/21/2013 8:02:10 AM

PART 1. Some of you are living in 2006 I suppose you could argue that tteotd were a bunch of scene kids hell we all were Tteotd & tbdm are both good bands I for one think tteotd is better they have progressed which each release so unless you've been living under a rock listen to their newest release Skepsis (2010)


anonymous 4/21/2013 8:05:30 AM

PART 2. it's clearly Melo Death yes theres breakdowns in it but know your metal history the "Breakdown" as you trolls and metal elitists love to complain about was brought into fruition by traditional death metal bands so it's really dumb to complain about it or bands (tteotd) that use it.....FACE PALM!


anonymous 4/21/2013 10:11:22 AM

TTEOTD is a blatant black dahlia rip off. Seriously fck that band of loser poser scene kids. Justin longshore needs a longhorn nserted in his rectum for rippong bands off so blatantly


anonymous 4/21/2013 10:30:44 AM

Get over yourself ^ everyone rips off everyone besides Deflorate wasn't that great and Ritual kind of sucked and the new song from Everbksck is boring as fck and Trevor knows this, that's why they're stating to feel it in their wallets TBDM is a good band but they know they are less relevant now


anonymous 4/21/2013 10:41:06 AM

You all suck the D's & B's TTEOTD & TBDM are both great bands c'mon lambgoat kids lets just get along you all know The Faceless and Tech Death shits on them anyway


bellini 4/21/2013 11:08:48 AM

This band still exists? Why?


SNoopy2 4/21/2013 11:44:48 AM

TOo much of a self righteous gay for the biggest shit band in the world


anonymous 4/21/2013 2:01:10 PM

Trevor wishes he had a new jerk.


duckduckfootloose 4/22/2013 9:21:14 AM

He's wrong. A band's value to a label, management, or booking agent is based on how much money they can recoup off their investment. There are plenty of ways a label can monetize their investment without relying on CD sales, especially since the market value for CDs is plummeting. And you can't say this is a new concept: labels have been owning their artists in all income vectors (merchandising, tours, management, booking, publishing) since the 40's and 50's.


anonymous 4/22/2013 5:22:36 PM

This is completely understandable... They literally live off of their work and people just steal but call themselves their 'fans'. This didn't make me respect TBDM any less. Let's face it, the metal industry is underground and hard to make money from, and these guys are doing a pretty damn good job along with those circumstances. These guys are extremely talented, write all their own music, yet make nowhere near what 'popular artists' make. Why would you want to screw them over like this?


anonymous 4/22/2013 6:22:35 PM

Love you duders. Preach on Trevor. I have bought every record. And pre ordered everblack. I will always support this band.


anonymous 4/22/2013 6:51:25 PM

I wonder what it feels like to go to work and feel unappreciated...oh wait that's everyday. shut the fck up buddy imagine if you had to have a real job.


anonymous 4/22/2013 7:27:39 PM

Kickstarter!


anonymous 4/23/2013 8:41:29 AM

I just want this band to break up so Trevers girlfriend dumps him.. So I can start fcking her again


anonymous 4/23/2013 10:47:07 PM

Wah! If nobody buys my albums and my band breaks up, nobody will fck me but my sister...


anonymous 4/23/2013 11:50:28 PM

Years ago I was told by brian himself that the reason zack gibson was kicked out was because "his playing is slop, he's not good enough." What a bunch of horseshit that is. This band is a joke.


anonymous 4/26/2013 11:32:51 AM

Die hard black dahlia fan who plans on downloading illegally AND buying. You guys taking shit make no sense.I agree it was a dumb move oh his part to try and URGE fans to buy the album.But to say they haven't a good album since unhallowed or miasma is far from the truth.Ritual is by far their best album to date; incorporating black metal with their already distuinguished thrash/death sound.I for one will buy the album, just don't like being told to.


anonymous 4/26/2013 9:56:43 PM

if they didn't sell out several years ago and change their style maybe people would feel like buying their albums at least a little bit? he's always had a huge ego and honestly hope that more people continue to download their albums and piss that douchebag off.


anonymous 4/27/2013 5:15:27 AM

If its really about the music then they would have real jobs and dedicate years to each album not release a new CD every year like a madden game, pig destroyer all have real jobs tour hardly at all and put out a CD once every 3-5 years and its always quality


anonymous 5/15/2013 4:57:12 PM

I fcking love TBDM, I've bought all of their albums, but I also downloaded them first...For one reason...I don't pay for shit before trying it out...All you fcks talking shit can come right on over and get a serious Black Dahlia beat down...313 North Jackson, Fort Gibson, OK 74434...I doubt I'll see any of you pussies anytime soon...


anonymous 5/22/2013 5:34:29 AM

wow, all you guys are jerks.


anonymous 6/3/2013 7:10:09 AM

What about punk attitude? There are shitloads of bands who rely on the fan support only, play for food and gas and maybe some extra cash, and are happy to do it anyway.


anonymous 7/28/2013 1:13:30 PM

To the guy who said that merch and ticket sales aren't as important as CD sales, you are completely wrong. Merch and CD sales are the only thing that can keep bands alive on tour. Buy their merch and buy tickets to their shows. Like the singer said, they only get an extremely small fraction of the money from CD sales.