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Emmure The Respect Issue


01. Young, Rich and Out of Control 02. Sound Wave Superior 03. I Only Mean Half of What I Don't Say 04. False Love in Real Life 05. Chicago's Finest 06. Tales From the Burg 07. Rough Justice 80. Snuff 2: The Resurrection 09. Dry Ice 10. You're More Like Friend Without the "R"
2008 Victory Records
Our score 2

6/6/2008

I should probably preface this review with a small disclaimer. Until The Respect Issue arrived in the mail from Lambgoat, I had never heard a single song from Emmure. I'd heard tons about the band, from people who absolutely loved Goodbye to the Gallows and from people who loathed the band's very existence. In these situations, though, I often find that the band is rarely as good as its champions proclaim, and not quite as terrible as its detractors bemoan. Although after listening to The Respect Issue, I can't say I feel any ill will towards the band as much as embarrassment. The Respect Issue is a by-the-numbers release of a band aware of its growing irrelevance. And if we were hurting for yet another parallel between nu-metal and metalcore, this album absolutely oozes the desperation of the waning years of nu-metal. Emmure seem to struggle with "getting back to their roots" - by paying lipservice to a variety of genres they only superficially understand and "broadening their horizons/really escalating what they started" - by hackeneyed attempts at melody and empty radio-friendly melodies. The sound here is pretty much what you'd expect if you took your generic "metal posturing and then chugga chugga breakdown" metalcore album and dumbed it down by several orders of magnitude. Frankie Palmeri shifts between the expected high-register screams, spoken word and faux-death metal gutturals. Guitarists Ben Lionetti and Jesse Ketive chug themselves retarded, and seem to be above the idea of "changing chords," while Joe Lionetti tries his best to make beginner's drumming sound powerful and hard-hitting. I'd like to say something about Mark Davis' basswork, but he ultimately gets lost amidst Lionetti and Ketive's ubiquitous chugging. In theory, the album would be salvageable thanks to its production, which is amazingly well executed: punchy enough to still hit home, but with enough sheen to maintain its appeal over repeated listens. But what really sinks things is the songwriting, which follows the shameless pattern set by the nu-metal Johnny-come-latelys that emerged in the early 2000s; Emmure dutifully mimics some of the more "successful" moments in heavy music of the past few years - emerging here as constant breakdowns that can't even be called breakdowns, since there isn't a notable change of pace during the first four tracks. Then they throw in a ham fisted radio-friendly rock tune that still sounds completely out of place ("Chicago's Finest"), and then toss off some electronic "experimentation" and maybe an instrumental number to give the superficial appearance of depth ("I Only Mean Half of What I Don't Say" and "Dry Ice" respectively). And just in case, the band throws in a bit of the old standard: Some "I'm so tortured" posturing from nu-metal university - the "I'm so over it" and "Just fucking die" refrains from "Tales From the Burg." I was going to mention the absurdity of having a wrestler on the cover of the album, but what's the point There's enough strikes against the album in the instrumentation and execution that there's no reason to bring up quibbles with silly cover art. In short, The Respect Issue has all the pitfalls of not only a generic metalcore album, but also a latter-day nu-metal album. The result is shameless in its trend hopping, but also horribly dated when it's not busy doing that. Bottom Line: The Respect Issue has more chugs in it than Adidas tracksuits were sold during the height of Korn's popularity. It's derivative and shameless and really has nothing redeeming about it. But. It sounds pretty and has the right balance of manufactured rebellion and trendy genre appropriation, so it'll probably sell like hotcakes. The only comfort here is that it'll be the kind of album Emmure's erstwhile fans will look back on and cringe, and the kind of album that'll be noted as one of the final nails in the sad coffin of cookie-cutter metalcore drivel.

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optimusPRIME_ 6/6/2008 3:30:37 PM

FIRST!


anonymous 6/6/2008 3:34:20 PM

shit band, shit review.


anonymous 6/6/2008 3:35:03 PM

im sorry but this band is awful, I mean if you like them than whatever, but in my opinion they are god awful


SageHulud_ 6/6/2008 3:36:33 PM

Wow you guys are frickin dumb they rock


KittensJ666_ 6/6/2008 3:39:44 PM

reviewer is being way too nice.


Dudeski_ 6/6/2008 3:46:25 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA


gollum_ 6/6/2008 3:46:31 PM

i think the reviewer has a "respect issue" with a band of this caliber. they are the next metallica


zombiesaretight_ 6/6/2008 3:55:22 PM

why would lambgoat even waste their time?


thick_as_shit_ 6/6/2008 4:11:20 PM

"Wow you guys are frickin dumb they rock" aha


anonymous 6/6/2008 4:19:23 PM

wrestlers and boxers aren't the same thing idiot. Shit band.


HB_Dad_ 6/6/2008 4:24:33 PM

I actually like this album a lot, yet I agree with the review at the same time. Perhaps it is an acquired taste? I basically equate this release, much as I do the latest Bury Your Dead release, as the metal-ish versions of a summer movie popcorn flick. Think of movies like Independence Day and Armageddon. Both of those movies were mindless fun with moments of pure disbelief, inconsistencies, and plot holes you could drive a truck through, but I still enjoyed the hell out of them. This CD is kind


iheartbros_ 6/6/2008 4:42:37 PM

yeah this band sucks so f*cking bad i think they desserve a -10 a 2 is being very gennerous


mailbomb_ 6/6/2008 4:50:41 PM

WE MET AS BOUNCERS...JUN JUN JUNJUN....WE LEFT AS LOVERS. JUN JUN JUNJUN.


putupyerdukes_ 6/6/2008 5:04:03 PM

posted by mailbomb () on 6/6/2008 4:50:41 PM WE MET AS BOUNCERS...JUN JUN JUNJUN....WE LEFT AS LOVERS. JUN JUN JUNJUN. hahahaaaaa


jun_jun_wee_ 6/6/2008 5:07:59 PM

Spot on review. People who listen to this crap are f*cking idiots.


anonymous 6/6/2008 5:08:06 PM

el oh el @ "chug themselves retarded"


anonymous 6/6/2008 5:39:46 PM

why didnt he just say acacia strain made the same cd in 2003 and it wasnt impressive back then either..f*cking redundant long winded review...its also hysterical that he has to say a sentence about each member on the cd and their playing....lame band lame review(er)..f*ck canada


anonymous 6/6/2008 5:42:13 PM

does lambgoat put his reviews through a word replacer for all this this canucks ays and aboots?


zero_x_potential_ 6/6/2008 5:53:33 PM

Why does Victory even send CDs for Lambgoat to review?


Jammure Emmure_ 6/6/2008 6:01:14 PM

You f*cking shithead. You don't know the first thing about mmuretalcore; we put a lot of time and effort into this CD, and it's one of the heaviest releases of the year. We better not catch you around at any shows, because if my crew sees you, you'll wish you never got out of bed that day. Oh, and to everyone who actually CARES about this record, listen up! Thanks to everybody who bought it already but for those who have not been able to find it, try TARGET, yes TARGET is stocking it for ONLY $6


anonymous 6/6/2008 6:01:34 PM

WON'T.. YOU BE.. MY BRIDE? (anotherdayanotherday)


anonymous 6/6/2008 6:15:13 PM

"wrestlers and boxers aren't the same thing idiot." kurt angle is a wrestler, you f*cking moron.


youreallysuckalot_ 6/6/2008 7:30:53 PM

lol @ anyone who takes this band seriously and goes to their shows/buys their shirts.


anonymous 6/6/2008 7:31:17 PM

nice job, Rob. It's nice to read an intelligently written review on this website. This band sounds terrible, but i wish lambgoat would spend more time reviewing releases i might care about/like instead of obvious shit like emmure.


Quesadilla_ 6/6/2008 9:04:30 PM

Biggest gays alive. The bass player said a show in CA was good (nobody was there) for the sole reason that I got to meet him. Die in boiling oil you c*nt, nobody cares about you.


robot_wheelchair_ 6/6/2008 9:22:55 PM

Dead on accurate


_ 6/6/2008 9:45:32 PM

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I was hoping this album would get reviewed, f*ck this band ahahahahahahahahah


baobab_ 6/6/2008 10:46:01 PM

2/10 is too generous.


Kurt Angle_ 6/6/2008 10:50:37 PM

Best album of 08!!!!!!!! If I ever see those Endwell gays I will be handing them the Olympic Slam in the pit!


threeIs_ 6/6/2008 11:04:59 PM

shit band. shit album. shit songs. but...Kurt Angle f*cking slays.


Jessi Emmure_ 6/6/2008 11:09:33 PM

i'm a gay


Greggles_ 6/6/2008 11:27:21 PM

This album licks ass so deeply it's tickling pancreas.


Selvin_ 6/6/2008 11:28:29 PM

"The Respect Issue has more chugs in it than Adidas tracksuits were sold during the height of Korn's popularity." ha


xbeaverx_ 6/6/2008 11:36:34 PM

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


diepigman_ 6/6/2008 11:49:13 PM

i think their feelings are hurt. haha mmuretalcore? vanflip


jeff goldy_ 6/6/2008 11:51:56 PM

zao meets korn?


anonymous 6/6/2008 11:53:37 PM

i got a few laughs from skimming through this, but why even waste your time on reviewing something like this?


hsd_ 6/7/2008 12:07:20 AM

wow rob you suck so much dck. look at your play list every f*ckin band on there sucks except pig distroyer. how about you dont review music that is in a genre you dont like. go kill yourself you sucking gay


solideogloria_ 6/7/2008 12:52:18 AM

shit f*cking band. 2 was a gift.


asaf _ 6/7/2008 1:14:00 AM

i cant believe you guys don't like chugs as much as i do. i love the jig and how they make a whole song simply out of rhythm. its all chugs. its a beautiful thing. the lyrics? personally, i love the girlfriend stuff. i think its personal.


anonymous 6/7/2008 2:18:02 AM

“i think their feelings are hurt. haha mmuretalcore? vanflip posted by diepigman () on 6/6/2008 11:49:13 PM” I love how someone always falls for the f*cking fake band rebuttals on every bad album review.


xpereniumx_ 6/7/2008 2:40:00 AM

HAHAHHA is that really a -2?


haha_ 6/7/2008 2:48:00 AM

In short, The Respect Issue has all the pitfalls of not only a generic metalcore album, but also a latter-day nu-metal album. The result is shameless in its trend hopping, but also horribly dated when it's not busy doing that.


XnothingisrealX_ 6/7/2008 3:08:50 AM

f*ck THIS f*ckING BAND ALREADY


shockvalue_ 6/7/2008 11:48:14 AM

2/10 is way too generous.


anonymous 6/7/2008 2:23:27 PM

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA f*cking awesome review


ROCKSOLID_ 6/7/2008 3:11:58 PM

What a pile of f*cking horse shit. f*ck this album and f*ck this band. Worst thing ever.


slut_ 6/7/2008 3:25:13 PM

best review ever.


anonymous 6/7/2008 4:12:51 PM

there's some pretty good lines in this review haha, but yes this band is complete shit, they're riding on the backs of previous bands popularity ::cough:: acacia strain ::cough:: and some shitty band that has crappy whinny singing in it


wizardsbeard_ 6/7/2008 6:34:22 PM

I can't believe that's KURT ANGLE. Did they ask his permission? Did he go "WHOOOO!" over the phone?


alangreenspan_ 6/7/2008 8:57:40 PM

Bottom Line: The Respect Issue has more chugs in it than Adidas tracksuits were sold during the height of Korn's popularity. f*ckING LOL


TY_ 6/7/2008 9:05:23 PM

What you don't know is that the label still has the option to not have them post the review. They opted for lambgoat to post it. THE LABEL KNOWS IT SUCKS TOO.


remingtoncountry_ 6/7/2008 9:20:10 PM

Do the people in this band actually think what they're putting out is good? Do they not understand that its absolute garbage? I mean who the f*ck thought any of those song titles were decent enough to say "yeah man, thats awesome!"....its not...its a f*cking joke, this band is a joke, anyone involved in this shits production is a f*ckING JOKE. This is the outcome of meathead "thugs" with their heads so far up their asses, that they believe this shit sounded listenable. f*ck EMMURE, I hope th


stupid head_ 6/7/2008 10:38:40 PM

Wow....lambgoat getting to be more and more harsh on bands huh? While this same site/label signs a band like Lye By Mistake who is a retarted Between the Buried and Me wannabe ripoff band, it makes comments about bands that kids just wanna hear because they have nothing better to do than to "mosh". Let the stupid kids listen to what they want without criticizing it as "nu-metal"....you want to hear some nu metal, go listen to some Cold or some Trust Co...review those records. At least this on


kurt_ 6/7/2008 11:03:21 PM

why is kurt angle wearing boxing gloves? and the last line of the review was really good.


jeff mulligan_ 6/8/2008 8:49:11 AM

soooooo...when did wrestlers start wearing boxing gloves? you guys just don't like anything that comes out anymore do you?


LOL_ 6/8/2008 9:44:40 AM

http://www.victoryrecords.com/kurtangle.html


Ca_ 6/8/2008 9:48:49 AM

Guitarists Ben Lionetti and Jesse Ketive chug themselves retarded, and seem to be above the idea of "changing chords," weak.


Whoha_ 6/8/2008 1:24:24 PM

Jesus, did this album get whored by the reviewer and the comments...geez.


anonymous 6/9/2008 2:58:00 AM

Yes, this band is terrible, its the same breakdown for 30 mins. But atleast its not country


bensy_ 6/9/2008 3:42:46 AM

spot f*cking on and well written unlike a lot of LG reviews. CAREERFLIP


anonymous 6/9/2008 10:18:21 AM

way overrated, overzealous, pretentious, c-cky jerks. the bass player is the only one who's kinda cool. they'll prob be kicking him out soon cause of that.


xSeanHannityx_ 6/9/2008 3:30:32 PM

shit band, shit album, shit label, shit people in band, shit gay girls pants wearing fans, no care ever


Kurt Angle_ 6/9/2008 3:39:33 PM

It cost these Emmure kids (and Victory Records) a TON of money, to get your Olympic hero on the cover of this shitty album. Between my need of steroids, painkillers, sleeping pills, booze, my medical fees, legal fees for my DWI bust, paying of state athletic comissions so I can compete in MMA, I really had to demand top dollar. It's true, It's true.


retard_ 6/9/2008 6:36:25 PM

Lambgoat reviewers are a bunch of pretentious jerks anyways! This review is only HALF spot on in my opinion...and that dude that was talking about Lye by Mistake is correct...WHO THE f*ck LIKES THEM??? THEY SUCK THE BALLS OF THE EARTH? BTBAM ripoff for sure!! By the way, I think the shitty Emmure album sold more copies first week than any of these other crap records Lambgoat is reviewing...so no matter what half the people think----IT STILL SELLS!! Business is business bitches---let's


Jorge Garcia_ 6/9/2008 7:46:50 PM

Cob Slober i mean Cok Gobler shit i mean Rob Parkit in a guys butts whoops Well Rob you like to many gay bands to be HateN yes hateN on Emmure so they disserve to be reviewed by someone who enjoys good music well Emmures great you heart satan eat his Cog Leg you should be full b/c i just fed the hell out of you


Mike_ 6/10/2008 1:19:18 PM

That last comment made absolutely no sense?...anyway. Emmure knows who they are and they know what they do. it's obviously working out or they wouldn't be on a headlining tour right now. And second of all, stop bitching, it's so annoying to see all of you bitch, you're like 5 year olds god damn! don't listen to it! it's pretty simple to get around a band if you don't like it, don't listen to them.


james_ 6/11/2008 3:26:37 PM

i'm sick of seeing gays that can't understand why this record needed to be reviewed and hated on. sites like lambgoat and others frame our culture for us, they frame how we talk about hardcore and metal and all that. emmure is a poison in the scene and is helping to divide hardcore into two camps, one of which is overrun with mall gays in flat bills that just threw out their korn records. "if you don't like it, don't listen to it" is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard and it justifi


wiltchamberlain_ 6/11/2008 5:55:00 PM

this review, although too long and redundant, is spot on. this band offers nothing new or ground-breaking with this release. however, calling them "nu-metal" could be the dumbest thing i have ever heard. i understand why most people hate this band, but they are a guilty pleasure of mine. and honestly, if you're going to base the bands you like according to their fans, than you're a f*cking idiot. oh, and trash talk ftw.


anonymous 6/11/2008 10:11:52 PM

I don't think he called the band nu-metal so much as compared nu-metal's rise and fall to metalcore. But whatever. f*ck this band, f*ck the reviewer, f*ck the site, f*ck your momma. *puts on his Trash Talk tshirt*


Tinfins_ 6/12/2008 1:33:34 PM

i like dix


bitchniggaplease_ 6/12/2008 4:10:18 PM

Hahahaha that's great. Highbeamreview's review had basically said the same thing before this. http://www.highbeamreview.com/review.php?id=91


Ant_ 6/13/2008 1:22:43 PM

chug themselves retarded


Mike_ 6/15/2008 2:16:20 AM

--"if you don't like it, don't listen to it" is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard and it justifies this record's existence. f*cking listen to trash talk-- Damn kid, I can't count on anything you're saying, if everyone listened to trash talk there'd be nothin left to like. I supposed everyone despises August Burns Red too? despite their insanely crappy name, they chug just as much, if not more compared to the length and tempo of the songs, but I don't see nearly as much hate. And don't


cock_mangler_ 6/17/2008 4:06:17 PM

August Burns Red, hahaha.


gopher_ 6/23/2008 3:50:11 AM

This band is so silly. Words cant describe. Between the flat brimmed hats, the purple damn drumset, Frank's "I was touched as a kid and don't know how to deal with a relationship with another human, so I will sing about bullshit" attitude, the fat guitarist trying to be Slim from BYD, which is no goal to be proud of, but just looking like Jimminy Glitch...this band is a joke. They may sell some records, but they are a joke, and they are ruining music. It's going to take some damn good bands to c


scenefagsgodie_ 6/23/2008 10:33:36 AM

EMMUREFLIP


dude_ 7/6/2008 9:22:24 PM

there is a time where you have to stop just respectfully ignoring a band and start actively disliking them. that time is now for this f*cking band.


dude_ 7/6/2008 9:24:19 PM

and it's jiminy GLICK. get your martin short references straight.


rdellis_ 7/7/2008 6:17:04 PM

f*cking listen to trash talk True that. As for Emmure, eh. In their genre, there are decent-good bands, but Emmure themselves are nothing special. Just heavy music kids listen to to piss off their parents and act tough to.


townhouse860_ 9/28/2008 3:20:46 AM

Yeah you may think this band sucks, but their the only good band that came out of CT besides Blood Has Been Shed....oh and Death Threat too


anonymous 11/10/2008 2:06:44 PM

LIFEFLIP. f*ck this horrible excuse for aan album. f*ck this band. f*ck their gay shit music. They all need to die miserable, bloody deaths and have their throats ripped out of their necks.


Vinnie_ 11/10/2008 2:46:11 PM

Everyone needs to stop their butthurt, this band isn't as bad as you think they are.


jmoney_ 11/11/2008 3:33:12 PM

I thought the album was pretty good and fun to listen to. You all are way too serious and need to loosen up a bit and stop being so uptight.


anonymous 12/19/2008 1:03:02 PM

Brutal Shit. f*ckin brutal hardcore f*ck all the metal bring me the horizon shit ass fans that. slow n low gays


Jean_ 2/19/2009 7:19:16 PM

hahahahahaha I listened to this shit album. Every single song seriously sounded the same. It went either from: a breakdown (which the cd is really just a boring repeating breakdown), to chords being alt. picked.


CORE HATER_ 4/10/2009 4:32:29 PM

This is f*cking -core garbage. I f*cking hate everything -core because I f*ck my dad in the ass every night while masturbating to naked pictures of Corpsegrinder.


Drahmin_ 10/24/2009 1:08:55 AM

The think this album was pretty good in my opinion i mean i like this band but if you dont then dont say because it will cause a band war and shit like that but watever


Frankie Palmeri_ 1/3/2010 1:37:05 PM

i masturbate to cottage cheese


Kyle_ 1/9/2010 6:16:01 AM

Perfect review. Emmure is the most overrated band since Bring Me the Horizon or Winds of Plague. It's just a messy mix of subgenres while attempting to maintain the "coolness" of the hip hop aspects of heavy music.


anonymous 1/15/2010 3:33:58 PM

VICTORY RECORDS RIPPED OFF MY LITTLE BROTHER...........AGAIN!