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01. Brothers in Arms 02. New Beginners 03. Hopeless 04. Last Dying Breath 05. This World Around Us 06. Never Again 07. Changes 08. Vengeance 09. Falling Down 10. Through the Looking Glass
2008 Rise Records
Our score 3

by Josh H.
3/14/2008

When any genre or subgenre of music becomes popular, it isn't long before legions of bandwagon jumpers start coming out of the woodwork hoping to cash in on the success of the innovators that came before them. Such is the case with For The Fallen Dreams on their debut album, as the band's approach is so utterly faceless they could just as easily have titled the release Metalcore II: Attack of the Clones. From the very get-go, For The Fallen Dreams lay bare their musical formula: verse, chorus/refrain, breakdown, repeat, with the occasional Misery Signals-esque "atmospheric" section thrown in. It's one thing to have influences, but the band is so painfully derivative that the album's very existence is rendered completely redundant. This has all been done before, and done much better by genre architects like Poison The Well and 7 Angels 7 Plagues. Tracks like "New Beginnings", "Last Dying Breath" and "Falling Down" are so typical they sound like the band wrote them in their sleep. But For The Fallen Dreams' musical plagiarism isn't limited exclusively to metalcore as the band attempts to tackle nu metal on "Vengeance," ripping off Slipknot wholesale in the process with a track that sounds uncannily like a rough version of "(sic)". The song makes one wonder whether or not the members of For The Fallen Dreams aren't failed nu metallers who decided to trade their clown makeup in for camo shorts in an effort to try their hands at being "the next big thing." The band's knack for utilizing a drop-tuned guitar tone on songs like "Through The Looking Glass" that would have easily fit in on a Coal Chamber record doesn't do much towards disproving this theory. By the end of the record it's quite apparent that For The Fallen Dreams don't have an original bone in their collective body, with the album coming off more like a laundry list of influences than a complete listening experience. The band might be extremely skilled at mimicry, but then again so is the local cover band playing at the Ramada Inn down the street. Bottom Line: All in all, Changes is another in a long line of fifth-tier metalcore releases destined to get lost in the deluge of copycat bands currently flooding the scene. Definitely one to steer clear of.

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anonymous 3/14/2008 9:24:39 PM

first gay


haha_ 3/14/2008 9:34:20 PM

wow im really surprised at this review. from the moment i heard this album i thought it was extremely well written and played. Although their sound may not be ground breaking, how many bands honestly sound like 7 angels 7 plagues? Not many, expect misery signals and that's almost the same band. They combine sounds of 7a7p and bury your dead, as far as i can tell, i havent heard many or any bands like that. ive seen these guys play, they're not "nu metallers" and honestly who cares anyways.go


you're sic_ 3/14/2008 9:35:50 PM

haha this band sounds nothing like slipknot, you're an idiot


swasherdon_ 3/14/2008 9:37:01 PM

more like For The Fallen p33ns, amirite?


nizzplepnizzle_ 3/14/2008 9:59:59 PM

i dedicate a Vanflipage for this reviewer other than that this is a good band kinda gotta Love Is Red style sound.


JohnFTFD_ 3/14/2008 10:12:30 PM

Hey Man, f*ck You And Your Shit Life. Go Back To Listening To Your Shitty Doom.


gglives_ 3/14/2008 10:15:42 PM

"throne in"... ? Reviewer sucks, record sucks, band sucks. Kill yourselves.


matt_ 3/14/2008 10:41:05 PM

totally disagree with the reviewer. Good record, agree on reviewer being a retard


anonymous 3/14/2008 10:52:44 PM

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keith_ 3/14/2008 11:28:13 PM

ha ouuuch


dudski_ 3/14/2008 11:42:04 PM

Reviewer must have some personal vendetta after a member of this band or something. They have been much worse records on here that have been given much better scores than this that definitely DID NOT deserve it.


anonymous 3/15/2008 12:12:00 AM

"throne in". I'm sorry but this overpowers anything else you will ever say on this website.go to hell. "throne in". jesus christ.


anonymous 3/15/2008 12:31:21 AM

throne in


threexs_ 3/15/2008 1:09:39 AM

"Metalcore II: Attack of the Clones"... how long did that take to think of?


ABC_ 3/15/2008 1:20:57 AM

Wow, I had a feeling that this review wouldn't be so good...Lambgoat is pretty good at completely whoring bands.... But this is uncalled for...I mean no matter what you do, a record can't be this bad...I haven't even really come across any record that deserved this type of review. I love this album, and I am saying from a completely un-bias stand point, I think that this record deserved a lot better...and I think the reviewer could of actually said things, that could be considered a good w


m00k_ 3/15/2008 1:24:25 AM

What a horrible review. This band isn't exactly breaking any new ground here but it's an interesting and fun record. Also lol @ throne in.


JohnFTFD_ 3/15/2008 2:52:10 AM

i like dcks in my ears


this band sucks dick_ 3/15/2008 2:54:32 AM

shit band/album


destroyerofpoon_ 3/15/2008 3:03:27 AM

I like how everyone is butthurt over a shit metalcore band no one cares about


hxcobd_ 3/15/2008 3:19:18 AM

Highly, HIGHLY enjoyable album. Another review further cementing the fact that Lambgoat reviews are complete and utter throwaway garbage. It doesn't have to "break ground" or "innovate" to be well-played, well-written, and fun as hell to listen to.


anonymous 3/15/2008 4:18:50 AM

no


seawhelk_ 3/15/2008 6:43:51 AM

oh, we're still surprised that metalcore bands are shit?


words_on_a_screen_ 3/15/2008 7:52:30 AM

the music on this record is fun and catchy. but... WORST LYRICS EVAR! srysly BYD has better lyrics. f*cking 3rd grade shit.


a_new_beginning_ 3/15/2008 8:41:51 AM

"I love this album, and I am saying from a completely un-bias stand point" <-- most contradictory sentence of all time. If you love or hate something, you are biased, that is the meaning of the word. anyways this band is horrible and I'm sure that their record is too.


Dan_ForTheFallenDreams_ 3/15/2008 9:54:37 AM

OOOH, you don't like our music! boo f*cking hoo. Cry me a river fanboy. We have more talent in our little finger than you do in your whole body. What band do you play for tough guy? huh? probably some bull shit in flames rifoff. gays.


anonymous 3/15/2008 10:13:46 AM

harsh review..get some actual people that like metalcore to review metalcore bands...and you wonder why lambgoat has the rep they have. no respect for this website for yrs now.


rise records_ 3/15/2008 11:05:21 AM

if chad edge ever finds you Josh H. he will be sure to stare at you in a very mean way.


faggot_egde_ 3/15/2008 11:44:17 AM

referring to people as _____edge is f*cking dumb.


Nick_ 3/15/2008 12:11:08 PM

I listened to a song because so many of you are bickering and it was boring and derivative as hell.


ABC_ 3/15/2008 12:19:29 PM

To a_new_beginning (pjmion@gmail.com): I wasn't trying to contradict myself. But I can see what you are saying...I guess I was trying to say, I do enjoy the album but I can understand or agree with criticisms or objectively look at it. I guess I should of made it clear the first time. :/ But none the less. I still stand by what I said...I don't think this review should of been this harsh, no matter if you incredibly dislike it. If you really didn't enjoy it that much, at least try to ma


juiCEY_ 3/15/2008 12:45:45 PM

I can tell just by the fact that this band is on Rise Records that they're shitty.


fuckthefallen_ 3/15/2008 1:11:33 PM

shit band/shit label/shit fanboys/shit scene/great reviewer


Kevin_ 3/15/2008 1:16:31 PM

Wow, even when the band whines about a bad review they do it in a generic, cut-and-paste kinda way.


anonymous 3/15/2008 1:20:39 PM

Why the hell does lambgoat review albums like this? stick with doom/crust/black metal shit that you guys actually like. No reason to rip on a band for playing a genre that you are predetermined to hate.


XOmeletX_ 3/15/2008 1:38:40 PM

You know, one thing this website needed is a bunch of gay fanboys to come defend this shit band.


tit ballz_ 3/15/2008 2:53:11 PM

Seriously lamb goat, stop letting this dude do reviews, he only reviews thrash/death bands he likes or hardcore/metalcore bands he hates, and yet again a typo in this review!


NicMiele_ 3/15/2008 3:07:21 PM

"if chad edge ever finds you Josh H. he will be sure to stare at you in a very mean way." hahahaha i think i peed a little. But all in all, it was just a very disappointing review, reguardless if they're good or bad.


BROZ_ 3/15/2008 3:14:53 PM

worst. review. evar.


LetMeEatThePooFromYourAss_ 3/15/2008 4:30:42 PM

GREAT REVIEW. gay BAND SHOULD CUT THEIR LOSSES AND BREAK-UP


sdasd_ 3/15/2008 4:47:24 PM

metalcore is for the people with shallow tastes. breakdowns are soooo played! geeeesh! .....seriously, listen to hot water music or propagandhi.


Throne In_ 3/15/2008 6:20:08 PM

I just read a review and have no idea what this CD is supposed to sound like. The reviewer is comparing them to bands from 10 years ago, which is kind of a fresh relapse from all the current DeathCore trendy shit anyways. Also, Throne In


Josh H._ 3/15/2008 8:55:40 PM

1530 views, 41 comments and 1 e-mail later, webby decides to fix my egregious typo... sweet.


anonymous 3/15/2008 10:11:14 PM

OOOH, you don't like our music! boo f*cking hoo. Cry me a river fanboy. We have more talent in our little finger than you do in your whole body. What band do you play for tough guy? huh? probably some bull shit in flames rifoff. gays. posted by Dan_ForTheFallenDreams (dan@forthefallendreams.com) on 3/15/2008 9:54:37 AM LOL YOU f*ckING gay. f*ckING DIE.


robot_wheelchair_ 3/16/2008 12:08:01 AM

OOOH, you don't like our music! boo f*cking hoo. Cry me a river fanboy. We have more talent in our little finger than you do in your whole body. What band do you play for tough guy? huh? probably some bull shit in flames rifoff. gays. posted by Dan_ForTheFallenDreams (dan@forthefallendreams.com) on 3/15/2008 9:54:37 If Im not mistaken, FTFD used to be a "bull shit in flames ripoff" before they traded their gay haircuts and girl pants for straight bill hats and camo shorts. COMPLETELY ACCU


anonymous 3/16/2008 2:03:10 AM

they never sounded like in flames, and that comment wasnt really one of the dudes from for the fall dreams you retard, read lamb goat more often and you'll get it haha


baobab_ 3/16/2008 2:29:58 AM

In today’s hardcore/metal scene, it’s easy for anyone to become jaded by the constant clones of, what is basically, the same band with hundreds of different names. We’ve all heard it; the same riff accompanied by the growling vocals and simultaneous "chug-chug" breakdowns. So, we wait and maybe search the music section on Myspace for a breath of fresh air. Thankfully, hidden in the obscure depths of the internet are bands that give this genre hope, and if you look hard enough, you can find them.


kevin_ 3/16/2008 10:12:50 AM

True story. Before, chad was in FTFD he was in some shitty Norma Jean rip off, and he smoked alot of pot. One day before a show we were talking about weed and he told me he had a quit like a week ago. He than told me he had become straight edge and showed me his XXX tattoo. The kid decided to become straight edge for the tattoo. Who becomes straight edge just for the sweet tatty?


_ 3/16/2008 2:17:00 PM

cheesy album, 4-5/10 at most


big john_ 3/16/2008 3:10:43 PM

Your all pssyS this album is sick... disagree with me... than FIGHT ME.. contact me on myspace to set up a time and place! myspace.com/thebigtuna


devil lover_ 3/16/2008 4:06:01 PM

Why the hell does lambgoat review albums like this? stick with doom/crust/black metal shit that you guys actually like. No reason to rip on a band for playing a genre that you are predetermined to hate. posted by () on 3/15/2008 1:20:39 PM good album. good guys. go listen to more faceless. gays


Dick Tracy_ 3/16/2008 6:53:52 PM

Damn, i loved this album a lot. But the whole Slipknot excerpt was true. But i see this as a band with meaning and passion, that puts intensity over the actual difficulty of their music. For The Fallen Dreams is more of a live experience, rendering this review not useless.


thick_as_shit_ 3/16/2008 11:07:06 PM

Your all pssyS this album is sick... disagree with me... than FIGHT ME.. contact me on myspace to set up a time and place! myspace.com/thebigtuna posted by big john (rcfisherman345@gmail.com) on 3/16/2008 3:10:43 PM... Dude, it's just the internet. Get over yourself.


big john_ 3/17/2008 2:10:05 AM

our all pssyS this album is sick... disagree with me... than FIGHT ME.. contact me on myspace to set up a time and place! myspace.com/thebigtuna posted by big john (rcfisherman345@gmail.com) on 3/16/2008 3:10:43 PM... Dude, it's just the internet. Get over yourself. posted by thick_as_shit (markovich66613@msn.com) on 3/16/2008 11:07:06 PM....f*ck YOU. why dont you get a f*cking life, im sure your like 30 living in your moms bastufft listening to children of bodom, and you have nothing better


hussle_ 3/17/2008 4:49:12 AM

review might have been a little bit on the harsh side, but the band is basically acacia signals...


anonymous 3/17/2008 4:56:55 AM

lol @ the horde of clueless raving idiots defending this piece of shit album. face it, it's terrible music for incompetent, easily impressed morons like yourselves. this band, your shit taste, and each and every limpwristed gay out there just like yourself will NEVER ammount to anything.


EvilF22_ 3/17/2008 9:25:34 AM

reviews posters are almost as bad as news posters. gays, the lot of you.


youknowme_ 3/17/2008 12:52:58 PM

HAHAHAHAHAAHHA. Spot on review. dck-riding kids more worried about their hair than the music.


yougotaids1_ 3/17/2008 1:10:21 PM

i like the disc f*ck the haters


Losh_ 3/17/2008 1:25:55 PM

first of all lambgoat has lost all credibility after so much horrible reviews...you are all so biased that this web site is f*ckin hilarious...yes it's true that this band hasn't done anything new with this album but excuse me - than you will have to trash talk 99,9 percent of all hardcore- metal-whatever music today...give these guys a credit for having balls to make music, play shows and release their ep and debut album...those things none of you idiots will ever do... so come on, throw some


Shit review_ 3/17/2008 7:27:06 PM

Lambgoat has some serious morons reviewing albums


whygodwhy_ 3/17/2008 10:36:54 PM

couldn't be more accurate. thank you


frank_ 3/18/2008 1:44:15 AM

reviews posters are almost as bad as news posters. gays, the lot of you. posted by EvilF22 () on 3/17/2008 9:25:34 AM i gues Evilf22 has never heard of the word contradiction


lucky_ 3/18/2008 2:20:19 AM

I lost my v card tonite to some nu metal chick..while fafd was on.


xmikeyfreshx_ 3/18/2008 1:26:49 PM

this is an amazing band,very talented,very solid.they have come a long way.stop making stupid f*cking one-sided reviews.go listen to your shit gay gore bands or whatever the f*ck you listen to.die in a fire,i give this cd a 9/10


rocksteady_ 3/18/2008 8:11:59 PM

In today’s hardcore/metal scene, it’s easy for anyone to become jaded by the constant clones of, what is basically, the same band with hundreds of different names. We’ve all heard it; the same riff accompanied by the growling vocals and simultaneous "chug-chug" breakdowns. So, we wait and maybe search the music section on Myspace for a breath of fresh air. Thankfully, hidden in the obscure depths of the internet are bands that give this genre hope, and if you look hard enough, you can find them.


anonymous 3/19/2008 4:02:04 AM

Why don't they just bring back For the Win? p.s. this website sucks.


comatose_ 3/19/2008 4:27:02 AM

i liked this band when they had their first singer. when they were more of a metalcore band. acacia signals is the perfect way to discribe them now.


vegans_taste_good_ 3/19/2008 5:46:17 PM

i think this review is pretty spot on. rise is known for signing copycat bands, and for jumping on bandwagons 6 months too late. once their devil wears prada buzz died out, they start signing cookie cutter mosh bands. whats next? probably doom or drone. saw these guys live in new york and it absolutely bored me to tears.


EatShit_ 3/21/2008 2:01:07 AM

Good record good dudes. Sorry they aren't some obscure doom metal bullshit. It's cool to hate cause kids like it. I get it.


Cait_ 3/27/2008 2:13:55 PM

Seriously....I love this album. I did notice in the beginning of Vengenance it reminded me of Slipknot but I highly doubt they were ripping anyone off. These guys are very nice fun guys too. Horrible review. Buy the cd.


Cory_ 3/31/2008 11:37:21 AM

who the f*ck calls a website LAMBGOAT.com .... I knew coming to this website that all the bands I like would get shit reviews and all the gay bands that I dont like would get rave reviews. Straight up these guys are rad dudes who were willing to stop and chat with me and a few friends at the reverb in Toronto last week. They live in a f*cking van week by week playing shows for kids that show them respect. JOSH H im guessing your either a failed musician whos feet have never even seen the stage


anonymous 4/2/2008 7:34:52 PM

Shut the f*ck up this band is intolerable garbage.


NICOLE MIELE_ 4/6/2008 10:01:03 PM

god dammit, don't use my review that i obviously wrote from a completely biased stand point. f*ck off retards. everyone on this site are elitest gays.


anonymous 4/8/2008 1:53:36 PM

our all pssyS this album is sick... disagree with me... than FIGHT ME.. contact me on myspace to set up a time and place! myspace.com/thebigtuna posted by big john (rcfisherman345@gmail.com) on 3/16/2008 3:10:43 PM... Dude, it's just the internet. Get over yourself. posted by thick_as_shit (markovich66613@msn.com) on 3/16/2008 11:07:06 PM....f*ck YOU. why dont you get a f*cking life, im sure your like 30 living in your moms bastufft listening to children of bodom, and you have nothing better


grant_ 4/9/2008 1:18:43 AM

Slipknot?!?! C'mon Is That Really What You Think They Did?


probablyyomomma_ 4/13/2008 9:20:43 PM

a very appropriate review. get f*cked ftfd, f*ck this band and their shitty horrible music. i've seen them at local shows btw, they are trash and their members are f*ckign TRASH.


hahahahaha_ 4/13/2008 9:33:18 PM

thank you for this review josh H. this band sucks.. if members of this band are reading this, f*ck off. quit trying to rip off meshuggah and misery signals LIKE EVERY OTHER SHITTY BAND FROM MICHIGAN. get a f*cking life. f*ck chad. f*ck andrew, both are dckS. and do not deserve to play in a signed band.


anonymous 4/13/2008 9:34:20 PM

"True story. Before, chad was in FTFD he was in some shitty Norma Jean rip off, and he smoked alot of pot. One day before a show we were talking about weed and he told me he had a quit like a week ago. He than told me he had become straight edge and showed me his XXX tattoo. The kid decided to become straight edge for the tattoo. Who becomes straight edge just for the sweet tatty??" this had chad all over it. he also used to snort oxicotton (OH SHIT)


anonymous 4/13/2008 9:44:37 PM

for real, this band SUCKS. michigan music is being INFESTED with shitty bands like this, shitty bands that want to rip ftfd off, and SHITTY KIDS WHO LIKE THIS BULLSHIT. michigan local scene is FULL of weak ass copy cats of this crap. ftfd lacks originality ENTIRELY. and needs to stop trying to do the polyrythmic rip off bullshit that after the burial, born of osiris, and other HORRIBLE bands like that attempt to do. STOP TRYING TO RIP OFF POLYRYTHMS YOU gayS


anonymous 4/13/2008 9:50:12 PM

also, the people in this band are NOT cool. only you're cool with obnoxious asshats who don't give a f*ck (because that describes the majority of the members.) dont' get me wrong, some of them are cool, most are ABSOLUTELY NOT.


FTFDomfg_ 4/13/2008 10:45:59 PM

this band has always sucked.. i'm just glad after having to listen to them for the past 3 years that someone with some musical taste said what everyone has been thinking they f*cking rip everything off, and if you think this album is good, then you should listen to all of the other bands mentioned in this review because they've done it better years ago


sweeeet_ 4/27/2008 9:28:07 AM

i liked a vivid betrayal better... chads norma jean rip off band


Milwaukee is down_ 4/29/2008 11:51:29 PM

alright so weird that the dude said "misery signals atmospheric" it is the first thing that you think of when you listen to it, but who said that was bad. Original Misery Signals which none of you f*ckers no about becuase your all dcked about mirrors still, and if this band can play those riffs with the atmospheric take in it and doesn't sound shitty, thats good in my book. I mean if this band can almost sound like misery signals why would that be bad, misery signals sucks now so there just kee


SonRway_ 9/16/2008 2:39:57 AM

These gays only got 1 point lower the the New Veil of maya record, these people are gays and gays get killed for absolutly no reason i mean really...


musiclover_ 9/18/2008 3:22:33 PM

Just because all of you little children don't like melodic hardcore doesn't mean that you have to bash true musicians trying to give it their all. While you lifeless robots are sitting at home bitching about which "metal" band is more "grim,kvlt, or brutal" real people are touring their asses off doing what they love. No matter what you guys say, this band is amazing, and so is almost any band that gives it their all and actually gets somewhere. That is more than I can say for about 97% of you f


Josh_ 10/29/2008 11:48:19 AM

clearly this review is a joke hAhA to apparently compare this band to poison the well or 7a7p is ignorant. i for one love the sound of this band and would recommend it to any hardcore/thrash metal junkie today. i guess some people inflate their nuts bashing new comers on the scene and if that's what it takes for you then you've got MY pity. this shit is hardcore GET IT RIGHT


CORE HATER_ 3/26/2009 7:24:57 PM

This is f*cking core garbage. I f*cking hate everything core because I f*ck my dad in the ass every night whle masturbating to pictures of Corpsegrinder.


JJ_ 6/28/2009 1:32:01 AM

I disagree with the reviewer. I've seen these guys, and they put on such a good show. Comparing them so such a shitty band like slipknot is bad, and don't come at me saying slipknot is good, they have too many members for no reason, their fans are 6th graders or scum bag "metal" kids. I hate the word metalcore too, its either metal or hardcore, and these guys are legit mid-west hardcore, touring their asses off, and personally getting f*cked up stage diving for them, i experience shit first hand


Reininger25_ 9/20/2009 9:55:40 PM

probably one of the most retarted, ignorant, blind, and overall stupid as f*ck reviews i have ever read. FTFD has true skill, be it there strong, deep riffs and powerful chugs. These guys have talent. Its not like your typical metalcore. These guys throw in a melodic theme in with their heavy breakdown strums and brutally honest lyrics on concepts of life. All in all, I believe this album is a masterpiece and whoever disagrees can smfd.


anonymous 2/6/2010 12:06:23 AM

Wow the reviewer sucks. This is a great album. The sound isn't totally original, but well worth it.


justin_ 5/29/2010 11:08:21 AM

lmao, "dont agree with me.. then fight me!" lmao. f*cking die you scum. set up a time and place so i can f*cking stab you to death, f*cking idiot.


ogessel_ 2/22/2011 10:36:14 AM

personally love this album. the lyrics are the weak point that is truth. unless you can relate just specifically. overall MAD HEART.


anonymous 1/19/2012 11:44:43 AM

for the fallen dreams killed every album they wrote. Changes, Relentless, and Back Burner. They are amazing, and ispiring.


anonymous 3/3/2012 9:32:16 AM

I dont think I've seen a rating higher than 5 on any of lambgoats reviews.Comparing for the fallen dreams to Slipknot really?they are bashed immediately because they didnt innovate a new genre. There are only so many chords u can play on a guitar with so many tunings. Seeing that there are only 10 or so genres of metal and hardcore whether they are death,thrash,melodic,beatd own this would mean that there are only 10 or so bands that shouldnt be bashed.