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Cryptopsy Once Was Not

01. Luminum 02. In The Kingdom Where Everything Dies,The Sky Is Mortal 03. Carrionshine 04. Adeste Infidelis 05. The Curse Of The Great 06. The Frantic Pace Of Dying 07. Keeping The Cadaver Dogs Busy 08. Angelskingarden 09. The Pestilence That Walketh In Darkness (Psalm 91 : 5-8) MP3 10. The End 11. Endless Cemetery
2005 Century Media Records
Our score 7


It's sometimes difficult to objectively assess the new album of a band who has become a pioneering mainstay in a given genre. For a band like Cryptopsy, they have been making solid death metal albums for well over a decade now, while weathering the storm of all of the passing fads in death metal and beyond. In fact, albums of theirs like None So Vile and Blasphemy Made Flesh are considered death metal classics in many circles. Therefore, based on sheer history alone, it's very difficult to accurately perceive the band's newest offering, Once Was Not, as if it is completely independent of everything else related to the group. So, I'm just going to say this now: while Once Was Not is not a bad album by any stretch of the imagination, it is certainly not the band's shining moment in the course of their discography. Cryptopsy fans are not shy when it comes to their opinions on occurrences throughout the band's history. For instance, many heated debates have transpired over who the better singer is/was for the group. (Notice I said better, and not best, meaning I'm only comparing two vocalists: Lord Worm and Mike DiSalvo. The yahoo on the live album is not even worth arguing about.) Now that Lord Worm is back in the fold, the band has come closer to the original incarnation of Cryptopsy that spawned Blasphemy Made Flesh and None So Vile. Though anyone with ears can agree that Worm's and DiSalvo's vocal stylings are very different, the music the band has produced throughout their career has always been characteristically recognizable as Cryptopsy. Despite the loss of DiSalvo and guitarist Jon Levasseur, the music and feel of Once Was Not is still traditionally Cryptopsy through and through, seeming to be a good blend of the older Worm era material as well as And Then You'll Beg and Whisper Supremacy. Fans familiar with Cryptopsy's sound will recognize all of the usual elements. Flo's drumming is once again in superb form, as his performance on Once Was Not is easily some of the best drumming recorded this year. Now one guitar short, the dual guitar interplay is nonexistent, and the guitar work on Once Was Not falls a little flat at times compared to previous releases. There is a general overall lack of solos, with only a few, though this is understandable with only one guitar. However, the guitar and bass do a decent job of creating riffs that rebound back and forth without becoming monotonous. In short, the musical tour de force that is Cryptopsy is still basically in place and doesn't appear to be going anywhere anytime soon. That said, however, there are many aspects of Once Was Not that prevent it from being a truly excellent album. Without getting into a Worm vs. DiSalvo argument, Lord Worm's vocal performance on this newest offering is, quite bluntly, not that special. His voice sounds as if it has not been treated well over the years, and is nowhere near as much of a powerful presence as it was on previous albums. His incoherent ramblings, and occasional god awful dramatic talking spells, make the listener long for the clarity of either his earlier material or the DiSalvo era vocals. The other aspect of Once Was Not that really suffers is the production. Many times this album sounds like it was thrown loosely together in the studio in a very short amount of time. Different elements of the record sound unbalanced and almost like they're competing against each other instead of melding together to form one comprehensive sound. Flo's drums in particular sound horrible compared to previous releases. They remind me of the Muppet drum set I had as a kid with paper drum heads (only Animal and Kermit never inspired me to play like this). Bottom Line: The only reason why this album did not receive a poor score is because the musicians of Cryptopsy are quite simply amazing. Even when they produce an album that does not live up to the potential and the high bar they set for themselves with previous releases, it is still better than 90% of the other crap out there that will never be able to pull off what Cryptopsy does. Many long time listeners of Cryptopsy will not be bothered by the things I have mentioned, but others, like myself, will be slightly disappointed and will long for the older material instead.


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dsadasda_ 11/5/2005 8:36:27 AM

Dual guitar interplay? Jerkoff, it doesnt matter if they have one guitarist or two, one guy can doubletrack, you moron.

anonymous 11/5/2005 8:42:11 AM

no shit dumbass, but then they wouldn't be able to perform the songs live... so what's the point?

thereapersson_ 11/5/2005 8:42:12 AM

Third Post. Good Band.

thereapersson_ 11/5/2005 8:48:47 AM


carl the truth_ 11/5/2005 8:53:29 AM

it's still just dceath metal, c'mon reviewer be serious

thereapersson_ 11/5/2005 9:10:37 AM

I'm glad I got in here before the glut of people complaining about this review come around...

anonymous 11/5/2005 9:26:37 AM

"One So Vile." Dumbshit. The album sucks way worse than 7/10. This isn't even Cryptopsy anymore. It's just f*cking awful.

f28r06a42n12k_ 11/5/2005 10:25:11 AM

I'd probably give it an 8, myself. Drums drown out everything besides the vocals... and the vocals aren't the best. Guitars are unhearable... production gets a 2/10 music gets a 9/10 overall... 8.

scott_m_ 11/5/2005 10:39:09 AM

one so vile, haha

Mike_ 11/5/2005 12:16:28 PM

That "yahoo" on the live album did an amazing job when he was in the band, he just couldn't write. Since you don't seem to appreciate Worm's fragmented style, you probably would have liked Martin just as much as Mike. I think the new songs are f*cking intense and the album deserved an 8.

dutchstep_ 11/5/2005 12:30:33 PM

OH MY GOD! I CAN'T BELIEVE HE SAID ONE SO VILE THAT MANY TIMES!! JESUS THAT HAS TO BE EMBARASSING!!! next time get someone who is actually familiar with cryptopsy to review their album. not some guy who researched them on amazon whenever death metal started getting big. how can you sort of praise None So Vile (or any other Cryptopsy album for that matter) and then complain about the production on Once Was Not? Whisper Supremacy is the only half decently produced Cryptopsy album and its product

burzum_ 11/5/2005 12:33:12 PM

I like Worms older vocals and don't care for the production - but i do like the album quite a bit. i had to listen to it a few times. I still think None So Vile is so far unmatched in terms of memorable songs, but i'm not going to dwell in the past. *...Slits Your Guts...*

Ash_ 11/5/2005 3:44:02 PM

If you want to know the truth about the One So Vile mistake, it was late when I was writing it, and I confused the old album None So Vile, with the new title Once Was Not, in addition to the lambgoat poster One So Vile. Don't give me this shit about not knowing Cryptopsy or finding out about them on Amazon. I've listened to the band since NONE So Vile. Simple typo. Go f*ck yourself.

sydbarret_ 11/5/2005 3:56:16 PM

awesome dutchstep awesome!!!

Brodequin_ 11/5/2005 6:03:01 PM

the reviewer got defensive!!!! wicked!

thereapersson_ 11/5/2005 6:13:42 PM

ZING! Ash pwnz gayg0lz again...

vegans_taste_good_ 11/5/2005 10:15:58 PM

once so vile is not the bands shining moment?!?!

vegans_taste_good_ 11/5/2005 10:19:31 PM

ZING!....but honastly, i only heard one track on this cd so far, and the production is horrid, you would think with them being on century media and stuff, that they can get a decent production. oh well.

anonymous 11/6/2005 12:34:48 AM

"it was late when I was writing it" Bullshit, you f*cking homo. It's a Lambgoat review; you weren't cramming in for some deadline so it'd make the print run. It's a goddamn website. If it was "late," wouldn't there be other glaringly idiotic shit in there, like rampant misspellings, verb tense mismatches, etc.? Just as I thought. Get somebody that actually listens to metal to do metal reviews for f*ck's sake.

MojoTFB_ 11/6/2005 3:30:13 AM

I really dislike Lord Worm. DiSalvo wasn't that great either, but I've gotten used to him on the last 2 albums. They've just never had much luck with good singers. If they had a better singer (someone like, maybe George Corpsegrinder? someone with competent rhythmic abilities and a strong growl and scream) and stronger, crisper, good death metal production, this album could have been a lot better.

Ash_ 11/6/2005 9:00:25 AM

someone who actually listens to metal huh? don't believe that it was late when I was writing it, and that I was tired? well, it was, and probably unlike you, I have another professional life that requires a hell of a lot more than writing for Lambgoat, so when I do, it's usually not in the best condition. I've been listening to metal since you were probably still in diapers. so, at least post your name, you cowardly shit. otherwise, shut your f*cking mouth and quit acting like your opinions

anonymous 11/6/2005 11:28:54 AM

Still can't come up with a reason why the rest of the review was grammar and spellchecked, but you still f*cked up None So Vile? I'm not surprised.

dutchstep_ 11/6/2005 12:16:15 PM

ash, i didn't even read the name of the reviewer before i made my post. i believe it was probably an honest mistake. you're a definitely not a newjack and i apologize for saying so. but you should definitely edit that shit before sending it, bro. i figure if you're steamed enough to get defensive in the comments then i must've struck a nerve so i take your word.

Strongarm_ 11/6/2005 3:32:16 PM

You f*cking people need to get over this "One So Vile" mistake for f*cks sake. Its over already, let it rest. Like none of you have ever forgotten an album title before when reffering to one or simply made the mistake of mismatching album titles to their rightful band. Be more concerned w/ the music. Ash, I totally believe it was an honest mistake, but yea, probably be a good idea to review your reviews or these "hipsters" will give you shit for mispellings and such. You reasons were totally le

anonymous 11/6/2005 4:47:28 PM

I don't REPEATEDLY f*ck something up when writing a review. I don't REPEATEDLY f*ck something up if I'm such a "fan" of their older material. This dude is a f*cking dumbshit, straight up, and should probably consider a life of suicide attempts.

say10_ 11/6/2005 5:16:58 PM

who gives a f*ck about the production? the music is horrible in comparison to their last 2 releases. they sound like they're trying to get signed to victory or something with some of those super gay riffs and that spoken word trash. where's the brutal tech death? isn't this the band that set the standard for brutality? it is severely lacking IMO. but on the subject of production, seriously what is the f*cking deal with pierre remilliard? up til within dividia, everything he touched sounded aweso

Ash_ 11/6/2005 6:20:18 PM

Post your f*cking name you scared c*nt.

anonymous 11/6/2005 7:34:06 PM

Andrew Mochulsky. I live at 2038 Midland Drive, Yorktown Heights, NY. I have class at Fordham University's Rose Hill campus on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday; I can post the times and room locations if you're so desperate to prove that you're "tough" and I'm a "coward" or some retarded nonsense like that. You're a pathetic douchebag that wouldn't know his elbow from his jerk when it comes to music; my personal identity has dick-all to do with it.

Ash_ 11/6/2005 8:30:06 PM

It has nothing to do with me thinking I'm tough. In fact, I could make the same supposition towards you based on your comments. It's just funny to me that anyone can anonymously make comments on the reviews, and the really agitated ones never say who they are. It's easy to do. Have fun with how upset you are over this review, and moreover, this simple mistake, whether you actually believe that's what it is. I hope you make a fatal mistake in you schooling, and when you present the actual ca

dutchstep_ 11/6/2005 8:52:06 PM

i want to kill say10 for being an idiot. you OBVIOUSLY have only heard "The Pestilence That Walketh In Darkness" and haven't actually listened to the new album in its entirity at all. had you, you would know that the other tracks are filled with "brutal death." there are no gay riffs or victory records bullshit (by the way BTBAM is on victory and they rule), not even on "pestilence." this comments section is rife with idiots passing their opinions off as facts. i suppose i'm one of them but

say10_ 11/6/2005 9:09:21 PM

i dl'd when it came out, gave it a once over, and deleted it. i know for an absolute fact this is not as brutal, intense, technical, or complex as either of their last 2 releases and that's what i'd come to expect considering the progressions they've made over the course of their career. and i am also positive there were some other super generic lameo riffs and vocal parts in some other songs, not just that one (even tho it probably is the worst). so f*cking fight me bitch!

johnnyjohnny_ 11/7/2005 1:12:04 AM

I think the singer on the live CD is CLEARLY the best they ever had. clearly. I mean, its a f*cking live record, and he sounds that pissed? awesome. Mike D would probably just sound weak and Lord Worm wouldn't even be a smidge as tight on a live record so f*ck off.

Hox_ 11/7/2005 10:14:43 AM

WAH!! WAH!! WAH!! Ash made a typo, so I'm gonna say mean things on the internet anonymously!!! If you can do som much better, Andrew, why don't you show us? Or would you rather just wear girl pants, use excessive amounts of hairgel and complain like a bitch while offering nothing constructive from behind your computer screen? Thought so.

dutchstep_ 11/7/2005 11:33:04 AM

studies show that 9/10 people who use "girl jeans" as a slander once wore were proud owners of girls jeans.

Mike_ 11/7/2005 12:04:21 PM

I seriously like this record, so what if the drums are front and center. The songs make sense. johnny you're right, Lacroix is awesome.

anonymous 11/7/2005 12:06:33 PM

It's not anonymous commentary if I give fine detail of my personal life. This guy sucks at knowing things of which he purports to be a "fan." That's his problem, not mine. He can explain it away with "I was tired," and I'll laugh at how glaringly inconsistent that is.

Hox_ 11/7/2005 1:24:54 PM

Well, Dutch, let me introduce myself as the 10%. Sorry to disappoint.

Ash_ 11/7/2005 2:43:39 PM

While we're on the subject of sucking at knowing things, let's point the stupid arrow back at your cro-magnon intelligence. Your whining about my "inconsistent" excuse for a simple typo shows your lack of logic. You're failing to distinguish between an error of content and a grammatical error, which are two different things. I made no grammatical errors, even when I was tired, because I generally do not make grammatical errors in my writing. I made an error of content, that being a confusion

anonymous 11/7/2005 3:05:14 PM

It's really cute when you pull the "I'm not reading any more comments from you" this late in the game, when you've clearly spent this much time and effort trying to make yourself NOT look like a dumbshit with a loose-at-best grasp on "metal" in general.

rodrigo_ 11/7/2005 3:20:17 PM

This cd is their worst, production is still horrible the reason the drums are way loud is so you can't really tell the guitar parts aren't great like they were when Jon Levasseur was in the band, he was the most talented writer in the band, the other dude is a f*cking good guitar player just not that great of a writer, and of course Flo is still an amazing drummer and the best thing they have left in the band so his drums are upped more than the other instruments. Lord worm sucks on this cd, h

LetMeEatThePooFromYourAss_ 11/7/2005 11:04:23 PM

dude i wouldn't post your address on the internet. I for one am already planning a jihad on your house

truthsayer_ 11/7/2005 11:41:58 PM

I finally got my copy today. I'm a big fan of Cryptopsy (both old and new) and I think this album is great. It's probably their most diverse release. Sure - it's not as brutally insane as None So Vile, and it's not as "tech death" as And Then You'll Beg, but it's a strong album, and it definitely "better than 90% of the other crap out there." Lord Worm's vocals are a little weak at times, but I think the record is strong enough to hold up regardless. 8/10

slice your face_ 11/9/2005 6:39:52 AM

so the comments' section became a forum for an entertaining argument between intellectuals and, well, pseudo-intellectuals; i'm glad people are still thinking or trying to think. i could say much more but i'll smile and end it right here (period).

drewcifer_ 11/9/2005 7:39:48 PM

yikes, i think you werent hard enough on this. i havent even listened to it the entire way through because the first three or four tracks i heard basically proved that there was little it had to offer to me

AIDSmuppet_ 11/12/2005 1:35:43 AM

i actually dig that pestilence track *cowers from glass bottles*

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SRProzak_ 11/18/2005 11:41:18 AM

AIDS was invented for this peon reviewer.

cryptic_slaughter_ 11/24/2005 7:57:31 PM

this album should be called 'what once was not' this cryptopsy - album is weak

Vagitarian_ 11/25/2005 11:12:25 AM

This album sucks total monkey balls!!!!!! P.S.: What a stupid f*cking argument, GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!