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Sunday, April 17, 2005 | [19068 views]
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Milwaukee's Chaos Fest 2005 came to an abrupt halt last night as a member of From A Second Story Window was attacked shortly into the band's set. The brawl apparently started when a member of Indiana hardcore band Blood In/Blood Out attacked FASSW's singer. One of our associates was at the show and provided us with the following information:
"The dispute was over a small problem that occurred the night before in Chicago where the singer for FASSW was crowd surfing and knocked out a false ceiling tile in the venue. The member of BIBO that did the attacking was seeking revenge on the FASSW member because he 'caused damage to the last venue in Chicago that does DIY shows.' FASSW's guitar player and cameraman, among others, were severely harmed. FASSW suffered severe equipment damage, their bassist's bass was snapped in half, their triple rectifiers were knocked flat to the ground, and their drums were smashed when a small riot broke out following the initial attack. There is no news yet as to whether or not FASSW will be cancelling any dates because of the incident, although it is likely considering their guitar player was hurt badly and they will have to replace their equipment."
UPDATE: Since we posted this news item, we've gotten several emails from people chastising us for being unfair to Blood In/Blood Out. After viewing video of both aforementioned incidents, we will say that the ceiling tile was not pulled out accidentally, but rather intentionally. Not a huge deal, but wrong nonetheless. Likewise, attacking a band on stage is not cool either, not at all. We're not defending FASSW, and we're not defending BI/BO. We don't really care who is to blame, or what behind-the-scenes drama prompted the attack. We're just reporting news. You (the small amount of you complaining) people need to stop worrying about Lambgoat, and start worry about being responsible, mature human beings. Get the fuck off my site.
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| xnickofgaix | 4/17/2005 1:01:02 PM |  | | its fuckin horrible. fuck that 1st post shit anyway. god dammit... stupid shit |  |
| brodowntonight | 4/17/2005 1:05:22 PM |  | | Fuck that. Whoever fucks with FASSW deserves to get their throats slit. |  |
| xnickofgaix | 4/17/2005 1:06:38 PM |  | | i just got blood in blood out's new cd too. i hope fassw's guitarist is ok. fuck. |  |
| wetmoyski | 4/17/2005 1:09:06 PM |  | | stupid ass meat heads gettin all worked up for some stupid ass shit. BIBO needs to go to bed w/out any milk and cookies for that shit. fuckers. |  |
| The_Suit | 4/17/2005 1:09:28 PM |  | | That sucks. I'm guessing neither will be up for playing posi numbers. |  |
| Kefka | 4/17/2005 1:11:48 PM |  | | OVER A CEILING TILE? Jesus christ. Grow the fuck up. |  |
| thegoddamnawesome | 4/17/2005 1:11:50 PM |  | | Blood In/Blood Out is one of the worst bands I've ever heard. And FASSW new singer is a gaylord. Fuck them both. |  |
| NEPHREN | 4/17/2005 1:13:33 PM |  | | BLOOD IN/BLOOD OUT = PURE SHIT...ONE FINGER GUITAR RIFFS KILL |  |
| I_AM_FUCK | 4/17/2005 1:23:05 PM |  | | Chaos at the end of the Chaos Fest, OMG! |  |
| crimsoneyes | 4/17/2005 1:27:10 PM |  | | very fucking stupid, leave it to hardcore bands to ruin everything |  |
| brodowntonight | 4/17/2005 1:28:52 PM |  | | Fuck you, the new singer of FASSW is awesome at what he's there for, and he's also a fucking great guy, much like everyone else in the band. |  |
| elliot | 4/17/2005 1:28:58 PM |  | | to be fair, the dude was crowd surfing, and that's laaaame. but yeah, a fuckin ceiling tile is nothing. and i sincerely doubt that place was the last DIY venue in chicago. |  |
| picturesofme | 4/17/2005 1:34:34 PM |  | | a fight? at a hardcore show? NO. seriously, though, what bullshit. a fucking ceiling tile. the guy from BI/BO should have all HIS gear destroyed and then get kicked in the balls a few times. fuck him. |  |
| bigego | 4/17/2005 1:35:40 PM |  | | i guess they watched blood in, blood out too many times and thought they were GANGSTAZ hardcore crews have anal sex with each other anyways. |  |
| halibut_again | 4/17/2005 1:40:53 PM |  | | if it was any other band i'd be ashamed, but fassw probably had it coming, as they are huge idiots. if nothing else, they deserve an asskicking for sucking so goddamn bad. |  |
| buckwheat | 4/17/2005 1:57:43 PM |  | | I fucking hate hardcore sometimes. Seriously. Thos guys are good dudes and all it takes is one fucking meathead to ruin it for everybody. and over what? A FUCKING CEILING TILE WHICH WAS AN ACCIDENT ANYWAYS! |  |
| keef | 4/17/2005 2:01:01 PM |  | | FASSW got what they had coming to them, not because of the tile but for being such faggots and ruining music. i just wish that one of them was brutally hurt to the point of not being able to play an instrument again. job well done BIBO |  |
| Ohhhhh | 4/17/2005 2:04:13 PM |  | | yes, because FASSW ruined all music in general. what is wrong with you kids, hah. if anyone ruined a form of music, it would be the other band with their complex style of hardcore *sarcasm* |  |
| withdeadhandsrising | 4/17/2005 2:14:07 PM |  | | WHAT??!! IS THE REST OF THE CEILING TILE OKAY?!! Seriously though, this is some bullshit. Which FASSW guitarist did they attack? Cuz if it was the skinny blonde guy, what the fuck. That guy's not only super nice but he's super small, too. |  |
| mrwong | 4/17/2005 2:16:30 PM |  | | You guys seriously need to calm the fuck down and not take everything so seriously. Who gives a fuck? It will not affect any of your lives. |  |
| dogmatic | 4/17/2005 2:20:41 PM |  | | Both bands suck. I find this humorous. |  |
| xnickofgaix | 4/17/2005 2:20:57 PM |  | | stfu keef. you're a fucking waste. i hope you die |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 2:26:01 PM |  | | That fight was 6 (FASSW) on 2 (BIBO) and BIBO won. FASSW are pussies. |  |
| xnickofgaix | 4/17/2005 2:29:07 PM |  | | i highly doubt it was a 6 on 2 fight |  |
| PIG_DESTROYER | 4/17/2005 2:33:08 PM |  | | no way in hell did he kick out that ceiling tile by accident. destroying halls is "cool" |  |
| xedgexenglishx | 4/17/2005 2:35:28 PM |  | | FASSW is an awesome band that doesent deserve to get jump by a group of pussies.and having their members get injuried and their equipment to be wrecked is so pathetic especially over someting so stupid...respect each other you faggots. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 2:46:29 PM |  | | FASSW apologized the the chicago promoter today for bringing this on themselves. |  |
| eaglesbecomevultures | 4/17/2005 2:47:47 PM |  | | none of you fucks are from chicago and have no idea what you're talking about. The Arlington Knights of Columbus is where the FASSW ceiling incident occured; That and I believe DePaul are the ONLY DIY venues left in the Chicago area. |  |
| eaglesbecomevultures | 4/17/2005 2:53:39 PM |  | | Oh and by the way when you refuse to pay for shit you broke and call the guy running it a faggot, bad things are going to happen. |  |
| mydixiewrecked | 4/17/2005 3:00:11 PM |  | | and i would actually like to see of you on here go to a BIBO show and try to do something in revenge for from a 2nd story window...that'd be cool too |  |
| touch_my_chach | 4/17/2005 3:07:38 PM |  | | I had anal sex with one of the dudes from BOBI. He didnt know how to suck it right so I slammed it in his butt, so as not to lose my erection |  |
| touch_my_chach | 4/17/2005 3:07:38 PM |  | | I had anal sex with one of the dudes from BOBI. He didnt know how to suck it right so I slammed it in his butt, so as not to lose my erection |  |
| emoxfag | 4/17/2005 3:10:04 PM |  | | mixed feeling. yeah i'd be pissed if some one fucked up my diy venue, but no one deserves to be attacked and have there shit fucked up. fests these dys are a bad idea. |  |
| frickendancebitch | 4/17/2005 3:11:52 PM |  | | IT WAS NOT 6 FASSW and 2 crew guys. There were atleast 6 tough guys from BIBO and ONCE FOR ALL who stormed on stage |  |
| touch_my_chach | 4/17/2005 3:14:55 PM |  | | ps- worship the devil! / Listen to Vital Remains! 665.5! (forgot to mention he also tossed my salad. True story...) |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 3:14:55 PM |  | | are you saying Once For All (the jesus band) jumped FASSW? FASSW are a bunch of pussies. |  |
| xedgexenglishx | 4/17/2005 3:33:44 PM |  | | jumped...also known as...not knowing it was going to happen..maybe if FASSW knew that those fellows were going to do what they were going to do..than i bet you FASSW would have done something more..you cant call them pussies for that. |  |
| paradigm | 4/17/2005 3:38:09 PM |  | | fuck that shit, the FASSW are down to earth friendly guys who put on a good show, fuck those BIBO faggots. they take this shit way too seriously, they should be fucked in the ass with a metal rod and thrown in jail. |  |
| imnotknew | 4/17/2005 3:40:52 PM |  | | Shitty, Blood in blood out is such a horrbile band. Well now their name will be seen from this incident, maybe they'll sell more than 1 more cd this month. |  |
| paradigm | 4/17/2005 3:42:59 PM |  | | wtf, how are you considered a pussy if while in the middle of playing a song, some faggot crew decides to jump you? it's pieces of shit like that, that ruin shows. |  |
| LEX_LUGER | 4/17/2005 3:43:27 PM |  | | Never heard FASSW but I know Blood in Blood Out sure as hell fucking sucks. They are up there with Eighteen Visions. Fuck tough guys. |  |
| wormwood | 4/17/2005 3:45:30 PM |  | | Some kid taking pictures was severely hurt. He had a fucking ground tom thrown on him and he has no affliation with either band. |  |
| xedgexenglishx | 4/17/2005 3:47:43 PM |  | | eighteen visions arent tough guys...they are gay guys.. i believe.. |  |
| xturtlex | 4/17/2005 4:03:00 PM |  | | was shane the promoter of that Knights of Columbus show? I barely know the guy but I know if i called him a faggot I'd die in like 2.2 seconds. this whole thing is shitty. |  |
| youisretarded | 4/17/2005 4:20:15 PM |  | | well whatever the problem was, it could have been handled with or without violence before or after the show. it was obviously premeditated to occur as soon as they started playing. beat thier ass, dont fuck with the equipment. |  |
| eaglesbecomevultures | 4/17/2005 4:21:12 PM |  | | Yeah, I'm pretty sure Shane was behind the Knights show were everything started. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 4:25:24 PM |  | | the idiot from FASSW broke his own bass swinging it at somebody. The drums were broken by some other band that got into the fight after it started (a third band). |  |
| wormwood | 4/17/2005 4:27:34 PM |  | | Supposedly there were members from three bands involved that attacked FASSW. Members from BIBO, Once for All and Defense. Both Once for All and Defense are two decent bands, but what happened is inexcusable. |  |
| justin666 | 4/17/2005 4:30:15 PM |  | | haha thats how northern indiana rolls. i like fassw but not if they are destroying the last places that we have that dont fuck things up. |  |
| ridethesnakexxx | 4/17/2005 4:32:27 PM |  | | sounds like blood in blood out not only has a gay name but are a bunch of blacks |  |
| justin666 | 4/17/2005 4:33:34 PM |  | | oh yeah one more thing. the BIBO guys are fucking huge and id bet the only dollar i have in my wallet that none of you would call them a faggot to any of their faces.. so awesome e-shit talking d00ds. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 4:39:25 PM |  | | The BIBO guys are great dudes. They stay at my house every time they come through town. Whatever happened was FASSW's fault and they brought it on themselves. |  |
| achilous | 4/17/2005 4:48:20 PM |  | | What happened was fucked up. People on stage that were just watching the show had their heads split open. I saw it myself. Tuff guys are not only ruining hardcore... theyre ruining other people lives. Go die with the punks |  |
| ipoopedinyourcloset | 4/17/2005 4:49:20 PM |  | | How low is that damn ceiling if you can bust it crowd surfing? |  |
| shredmyaxe | 4/17/2005 4:51:29 PM |  | | I'm not too much of a FASSW fan, but you gotta feel bad when a hardcore cocksucker attacks anyone for no reason. |  |
| senate | 4/17/2005 4:51:34 PM |  | | was anybody at the show on friday besides me? there was almost a battle AT the show. the guy was all in his face like hes cool. nothin but a fucking jock in hxc clothing. |  |
| senate | 4/17/2005 4:53:50 PM |  | | anyways, the guys in FASSW are the nicest guys ive met in a while and their live set is phenomenal. lets hope all is well on their front. BIBO - die. |  |
| achilous | 4/17/2005 4:58:32 PM |  | | The guy taped said in the didntthathurt boards that when he watched the tape from the chicago show, you can see him put the ceiling tile back in place. DEFENSE are trying to get their names cleared, but they were involved. |  |
| beardofbees | 4/17/2005 5:00:13 PM |  | | as its been said 10xs before FSSW guys are super nice dudes! toughguy fuckin hc takes no tallent. its all ex JV Jocks who are bitter and have nothing better to do than beat up kids that are liked by more people and are in better bands. |  |
| GETSICMOTHERFUCKERS | 4/17/2005 5:07:12 PM |  | | This is honestly so fucked up and ridiculous. FASSW are great people and this is one of the most outrageously petty and childish stunts I've ever heard being pulled at a hardcore show. Men need to learn how to be men. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 5:09:09 PM |  | | I like how because you like FASSW's music, they are the innocent ones. How do you explain them apologizing for starting this whole incident then? You can't. |  |
| StrengthOfHeart | 4/17/2005 5:09:49 PM |  | | HAHA! Blood in Blood Out > FASSW I almost kicked that singer in the mouth when they played here, he had it coming! Faggots. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 5:10:20 PM |  | | The fight was wrong on all sides (FASSW, BIBO, DEFENSE, and whoever else was involved). They should all apologize to the promoter and to the fans. (ALL OF THEM). |  |
| milwaukee | 4/17/2005 5:12:20 PM |  | | throughout the fest there were bands speaking about morals and getting along with each other. why cant these people leave their tough attitudes at the door and when they are at a show put themselves on equal ground as everyone else is there. |  |
| GETSICMOTHERFUCKERS | 4/17/2005 5:15:34 PM |  | | "That's just how Indian rolls"? Oh, ok. You roll like a bunch of toddlers. I get it. There are more mature & productive ways to settle matters. I guess it's cooler to act like an idiot and live in your parent's basement though. |  |
| SlayerONE | 4/17/2005 5:16:51 PM |  | | I was at this show last night and was so DISTURBED! I confirm that members of Once for All and Defense were on stage, I went to high school with them, but not sure if they were fighting or breaking up the fight. |  |
| milwaukee | 4/17/2005 5:17:48 PM |  | | the best part of the weekend was the sign that said. "STOP ACTING TOUGH AND SING ABOUT STUFF THAT MATTERS" also. thanks a lot to baxter for doing chaos fest so good again this year. |  |
| SlayerONE | 4/17/2005 5:18:39 PM |  | | Also, the jock fucker from BIBO ended up yelling "FUCK YOU!" at the entire crowd and audience. Talk about ruining venues, we will never be allowed in Orchard Inn again! FUCK CREWS, FUCK CHICAGO, FUCK BLOOD-IN BLOOD-OUT! |  |
| xcthc | 4/17/2005 5:22:53 PM |  | | this sounds like a bunch of faggot shit |  |
| drewxblood | 4/17/2005 5:26:24 PM |  | | last time i checked, venue owners are more likely to blacklist hardcore shows if all out brawls happen at their places, rather than a missing ceiling tile. hardcore is so fucking stupid. |  |
| elliot | 4/17/2005 5:37:05 PM |  | | hahah, seriously, i hadn't even thought of that. you think any place is gonna do hardcore shows after a fucking brawl between the bands breaks out? fuck BI/BO and their crew of fetal alcohol syndrom victims. maybe they can hang out with bone thugz. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 5:38:35 PM |  | | fuck FASSW for not being able to finish something they start. |  |
| milwaukee | 4/17/2005 5:49:54 PM |  | | to idontcare: i love how your posts really are holding to what went on. calling people pussies over the internet really shows a lot of balls. fag. |  |
| Dude_Wheres_My_Boner | 4/17/2005 5:51:38 PM |  | | Faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot faggot. For crying out loud, learn a new fucking word already. Christ, meat head hardcore tuffies are the absolute dumbest forms of matter on Earth. |  |
| littlemac | 4/17/2005 5:52:12 PM |  | | the last time i went to a show in chicago, all the "in" kinds liked to intimidate any kid who was dancing wrong, looking wrong, or just looked like a good target to pummel. looks like nothing has changed. |  |
| GETSICMOTHERFUCKERS | 4/17/2005 5:52:33 PM |  | | They didn't start ANYTHING. He accidentally kicked a ceiling tile and even tried to fix it. Are you just a total idiot or am I missing something here? |  |
| littlemac | 4/17/2005 5:53:07 PM |  | | i never understood the violence, and i'm not really interested at all anymore. some of those kids from arlington heights were nice when i met them but when it came to shows, they were out for blood. |  |
| milwaukee | 4/17/2005 5:53:53 PM |  | | there is going to be footage up soon on either www.milwaukee-hardcore.com or www.didntthathurt.com. i guess he has footage of friday in chicago and last night. |  |
| mikey_broderick | 4/17/2005 5:55:03 PM |  | | Fights happen.... people get hurt. both bands are awsome. your all assholes.... and so am I. This is hardly news worthy.so get over it. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 5:58:13 PM |  | | attn: idiots, i talked to the person that did the chicago show and FASSW started talking shit to the person running the show. they admitted on the phone today that they started this all. THEY ADMITTED!! |  |
| wolfpack | 4/17/2005 6:01:19 PM |  | | haha..awesome |  |
| GETSICMOTHERFUCKERS | 4/17/2005 6:11:40 PM |  | | If they "talked shit" to the promoter it was most likely over a payment issue, or something else that was going on that people don't know about. Regardless, this whole thing is still fucking ridiculous and childish and you can't argue that. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 6:12:36 PM |  | | they got paid $850 MORE than they asked for because it was a big show. They talked shit because the dude asked them to quit breaking shit and to pay for what they broke. So way to make a dumb assumption. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 6:14:06 PM |  | | and I agree that this is all dumb. FASSW apologized for starting all this shit. They got paid a fortune for playing chicago. tons of people said FASSW are good dudes, lots said the same about BI/BO. It's all dumb and should die. |  |
| courtneychicago | 4/17/2005 6:15:54 PM |  | | I was the person running the show in Chicago...and it is ridiculous how wrong you all are. Do everyone involved a favor and drop it. Everything has been smoothed over with FASSW on our end, so just leave it alone. |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 6:16:13 PM |  | | hangedman: Ironic isn't it? You'd have thought they'd see that coming |  |
| milwaukee | 4/17/2005 6:22:51 PM |  | | i respect that you cleared everythign up with fassw but that still doesnt explain why 15 and 16 year olds get floor toms cracked on their head because they are trying to keep a amp from falling...or does it? |  |
| Mikey216 | 4/17/2005 6:29:41 PM |  | | APHASIA GOT BEAT UP??? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |  |
| thehangedman | 4/17/2005 6:32:06 PM |  | | whatever FASSW had "Dude Core" merchandise, fuck them. |  |
| GETSICMOTHERFUCKERS | 4/17/2005 6:37:25 PM |  | | I have that Dude Core shirt. It's fucking hilarious and you're clearly one of the idiots that takes that shit seriously and that is EXACTLY why they made the shirts. |  |
| monarchy | 4/17/2005 6:43:53 PM |  | | FASSW >>>>>>>>>>> BIBO |  |
| motherfckzombies | 4/17/2005 7:06:59 PM |  | | Over crowdsurfing huh? That's it! Next person that litters inside a venue at the next show im at is getting kicked in the fucking nuts! ROAR!!! |  |
| carlthetruth | 4/17/2005 7:26:49 PM |  | | was'nt as cool as pistons/pacers |  |
| wormwood | 4/17/2005 7:29:08 PM |  | | http://www.didntthathurt.com/threaddetails.php?threadid=118809&board=d
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| whitelambpowergoat | 4/17/2005 7:37:29 PM |  | | if i ever see any memebers of bibo i will fucking smash their faces in with a fucking sledgehammer. way to be total fucking losers |  |
| callousjosh | 4/17/2005 7:37:48 PM |  | | Here is a direct link to the vid: http://www.callousrecords.com/fassw.avi It has what happened with FASSW on Friday in Chicago and the fight... or at least some of it. |  |
| brodowntonight | 4/17/2005 7:42:39 PM |  | | "if nothing else, they deserve an asskicking for sucking so goddamn bad." - Wow. It's okay, I won't blame you for being deaf, maybe someone should punch your mom's vagina so no more wastes of life come out. |  |
| chrismurder | 4/17/2005 8:08:51 PM |  | | at first i thought it was blood for blood that did it, then thought, "holy crap the next boston beatdown dvd will sell like CRAZY!" |  |
| christinaNWI | 4/17/2005 8:33:45 PM |  | | I'm pretty sure fassw wouldn't get "attacked" just over a ceiling tile. Fassw are a horrible band and this was probably just a last straw. We aren't that lame! |  |
| xmxlx | 4/17/2005 8:35:57 PM |  | | I lke to say I like both bands, but BI/BO should have done what hey did after the show. |  |
| paradigm | 4/17/2005 9:00:48 PM |  | | so in oder to avenge a knocked down ceiling tile, they start a brawl, break a band's equipment, and probably get all hardcore shows banned from that venue. good decision. toughguys are really smart. |  |
| fuckingcharliedaniels | 4/17/2005 9:15:31 PM |  | | Played with FASSW hoever long ago, they were all cool and chill dudes. Tough guy band probably just got mad because they suck and wanted some publicity, hope they died in a car wreck on the way home |  |
| soccermom | 4/17/2005 9:29:00 PM |  | | this is the next tupac/biggie rivalry |  |
| Idontcare | 4/17/2005 9:29:30 PM |  | | hahah. most unbiased video ever. I saw FASSW suck on stage and dude asses. I guess that is what all you dorks like: man ass and bad bands. |  |
| marching_band_rules | 4/17/2005 9:41:27 PM |  | | whether you are partial to fssw or bibo, this is rather objective: attacking someone while they are playing a show (i.e. defenseless) over a ceiling tile was knocked down accidentally is ridiculous and childish. that's all that needs to be said. |  |
| deadgeneration | 4/17/2005 9:49:38 PM |  | | to those of you who call FASSW pussies for getting beat up while they have their guitars on during their show. you guys are fucking stupid. they got jumped, it doesnt make them pussies. and fighting doesn't make you cool. grow the fuck up. |  |
| brianperiod | 4/17/2005 10:02:36 PM |  | | the best thing about all of this is, none of you know what you are talking about or what happened, or why it happened. it was all justified, and hopefully FASSW never tries to play in chicago again. shitty band anyways. |  |
| blowtheirbrainsout | 4/17/2005 10:04:09 PM |  | | i just watched that video. BI/BO i would like to personally thank you for making everyone who listens to hardcore look like a bunch of ignorant apes. fucking grow up. |  |
| marching_band_rules | 4/17/2005 10:13:07 PM |  | | how is it justified? did you see the video? it can't be disputed that this was ridiculous. |  |
| MKE | 4/17/2005 10:13:18 PM |  | | was it justified to hurt innocent kids that knew nothing about this? Also, how can you justify these kind of actions one of our only venues? I don't know if fassw deserved it, but the Milwaukee scene sure as hell didn't. |  |
| soulshadower | 4/17/2005 10:22:29 PM |  | | i was there last night, it was really fucked up. i feel really bad for andy having to deal with this kinda shit. |  |
| XdougX | 4/17/2005 10:44:37 PM |  | | That video sucks. |  |
| GETSICMOTHERFUCKERS | 4/17/2005 10:50:22 PM |  | | YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF IGNORANT FUCKING IDIOTS. NONE OF YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. THE PROMOTER SAID THAT EVERYTHING WAS FINE BETWEEN THEM AND FASSW. SO CLEARLY, THIS IS NOT JUSTIFIABLE. GO DO SOME PUSHUPS. |  |
| xsamx | 4/17/2005 10:51:09 PM |  | | this is insane. fassw are definitely not finishing the tour. |  |
| NotAPseudonym | 4/17/2005 11:18:52 PM |  | | I was at the Chicago show. Yes, a ceiling tile was knocked out. But A) it was an accident. The ceiling is low. B) it was not broken, and was replaced at the end of the set. |  |
| inspiredby | 4/17/2005 11:27:29 PM |  | | i wouldnt be supprised if fassw takes legal action. this is just a prime example of how hardcore bands are territorial like prarie dogs, you mess with their area, they throw rocks at you. |  |
| theturnon | 4/17/2005 11:55:49 PM |  | | Since By Man is the best Milwaukee band |  |
| touch_my_chach | 4/18/2005 12:03:13 AM |  | | straight edge is for pussys. It wouldnt be the last time I sucked dick for crack.... |  |
| Selvin | 4/18/2005 12:08:18 AM |  | | This is the stuff that really kills the scene and music... ugh... |  |
| billybricks | 4/18/2005 12:32:06 AM |  | | dude are we all watching the same video? cuz i definitely can't tell what's going on and don't understand how anyone can make out exactly who is beating up who. |  |
| thehangedman | 4/18/2005 12:38:49 AM |  | | does anyone have a WORKING link to the video? the one posted above doesn't work anymore and I'd like to see it |  |
| xscottx | 4/18/2005 1:16:53 AM |  | | Wow, alot of comments. Scene drama...oh well, its gonna be there forever. |  |
| killa | 4/18/2005 1:22:04 AM |  | | not all of BI/.BO are big guys, FASSW shouldnt have broken anything that wasnt theirs. dont walk into someone else's town, and damage their venue. |  |
| mikey_broderick | 4/18/2005 1:40:33 AM |  | | From what I know, what really led up to the brawl was a bunch of shit talk. so anyone talking shit, is no better than anyone involved. |  |
| withdeadhandsrising | 4/18/2005 1:46:20 AM |  | | fuck hardcore/metalcore. i'm going back to numetal. I FELT DA H8 RIZ UP |  |
| horrorbusiness | 4/18/2005 2:56:42 AM |  | | homophobic comments are lame. that link doesnt work. and fights are stupid. |  |
| nocomply | 4/18/2005 3:09:14 AM |  | | BI/Shit Out are the biggest waist of space ever.....FASSW are the nicest guys .....Fuck Crap In/ Crap Out |  |
| PeeGeeCee | 4/18/2005 3:30:50 AM |  | | wow couple of zingers there no comply but yea your right this seems to be the same tuff guy bullshit i saw the video and that tile looked like it coulda been easily replased or just put right back seems like BIBO blew this out proportion |  |
| gozer | 4/18/2005 3:49:28 AM |  | | who was there??? thats right, like 4 of you. i was, so i can talk about it. it was an accident on FASSWs part. and BIBO are pussies for doing this on stage, if they had any respect for our scene and CHAOS FEST they would have done this else where. |  |
| vyvian | 4/18/2005 3:56:25 AM |  | | It wasn't over a fucking ceiling tile. it was because FASSW are jackasses and kept fucking with BI/BO by getting them removed from several bills. FUCK FASSW! there a bunch of jerkoffs anyway. |  |
| phobophile | 4/18/2005 5:04:06 AM |  | | hahaha.. toughguy dumbshits remind me why i don't listen to hardcore. |  |
| pistol_whipped_kiss | 4/18/2005 5:36:01 AM |  | | fassw definitely deserved everything that they had coming to them. fuck this band. & considering fassw's show history alone, it's pretty obvious that knocking out a tile was no accident. whatever!#!#! bibo rules. |  |
| brodowntonight | 4/18/2005 6:55:40 AM |  | | Knocking out a tile was no accident? Who dropped a brick on your head in the past week? If you won't apologize to them, I will for you. Because you're obviously out of your fucking mind. |  |
| withdeadhandsrising | 4/18/2005 7:55:43 AM |  | | all of you who keep saying whoever wasn't there can't have an opinion need to shut the fuck up. i don't need to actually see it happen to know bi/bo are a bunch of dildos. |  |
| Paul_NJxHC | 4/18/2005 8:57:55 AM |  | | What a butchering of what really happened. Get over it! One of your hip scenster bands got what they deserved. |  |
| gurneyhalleck | 4/18/2005 9:00:29 AM |  | | FASSW were a nu metal band called Aphasia and switched over about the time Norma Jean came out. Seems only one person here knows that. |  |
| beardofbees | 4/18/2005 9:27:20 AM |  | | FSSW laugh about their nu-metal past and know they kick ass now, whee as BIBO has to look in the mirror and say "Fuck, we are still jokes" |  |
| youisretarded | 4/18/2005 10:03:26 AM |  | | every band nowadays used to be a nu metal band |  |
| die_die_die_slut | 4/18/2005 10:45:21 AM |  | | there old singer was getting followed, getting beat up around the ohio area, because he sold out edge. now, there new singer gets ram shacked. this band needs to get some drama free singers. |  |
| die_die_die_slut | 4/18/2005 10:45:59 AM |  | | and yes, the fight was stupid. so, i am not taking bibo side, just saying, shit needs to be setteled |  |
| dillingersxe | 4/18/2005 11:01:32 AM |  | | i was effing at the show in chicago, and the tile came out on accident. its a low ceiling at the venue. after fassw's set, they put the UNBROKEN tile back in its place |  |
| dillingersxe | 4/18/2005 11:02:35 AM |  | | fassw showed 100% respect for the crown and venue in chicago. bibo's guys weren't even at the show. fuck bibo x10 |  |
| lookatmeimtough | 4/18/2005 11:07:12 AM |  | | thats shitty. i hope they still play the OBW/ ion dissonance show in CA |  |
| yourealldumb | 4/18/2005 11:52:47 AM |  | | if you would've SEEN instead of HEARD about what happened you would've seen the following: the singer of FASSW grabbing the ceiling tile and ripping it to the ground. |  |
| yourealldumb | 4/18/2005 11:54:14 AM |  | | don't you think if he did it on accident he would've tried to put it back in it's place? BUT HE DIDN'T. |  |
| yourealldumb | 4/18/2005 11:54:37 AM |  | | this isn't even over just a tile, a lot more happened. but even if it was just over a tile, if someone came to your house... then ripped off a piece of it's roof... would you just sit there and say "oh darn!"? |  |
| godfatherofsoul | 4/18/2005 12:19:34 PM |  | | And the winner is... no one I am actually bloodin/blood out dare you to call me faggot! |  |
| jim_dangle | 4/18/2005 12:24:20 PM |  | | whats the deal with black marekt activities bands getting jumped by shitty hardcore bands lately? i swear if anything happens to psyopus or paria i'll stab somebody. |  |
| daysunderfire | 4/18/2005 12:48:29 PM |  | | we have only one diy club in wilkes barre and that place is destory to hell and know one flips shit when something tiny gets broken thats just stupid. |  |
| instigatethemosh | 4/18/2005 12:57:20 PM |  | | it was crazyyy. i was front row when the fight broke up. the dudes were yelling "thats what you get for fucking with chicago." ghey |  |
| west | 4/18/2005 1:15:18 PM |  | | the scenerio is so dramatic and played out. it seems like these kids love the spotlight and everyone playing their part on stage. all blood in blood out wanted from this was attention. a sign of insecurity. |  |
| Loki | 4/18/2005 1:23:17 PM |  | | I dont see you people bitching about Moby getting his ass kicked on the Boston Beatdown dvd...is that because you think Moby's a faggot? The same goes with ass fw whatever they are faggots and that is reason enough to get their ass kicked. |  |
| corycamefalling | 4/18/2005 1:44:48 PM |  | | fuck you faggots defending blood in blood out...handle your shit after the show, not jumping them during their set. fuck those pussies. |  |
| jasonn | 4/18/2005 2:42:59 PM |  | | yeah thats what they get for messing with people in chicago and a venue in chicago. this is hardcore people are serious about this shit. its not some fantasty land you act like assholes youre gonna get treated like assholes. |  |
| ridethesnakexxx | 4/18/2005 3:11:30 PM |  | | let me just re-itterate the fact that blood in blood out is not only a terrible band, but they also have the worst name ever. and they're black. |  |
| nailbunny | 4/18/2005 3:27:56 PM |  | | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL OF YOU DOUCHEBAGS |  |
| merrideath | 4/18/2005 4:03:29 PM |  | | No one ever specified which guitarist. Derek or Rob? I kind of want to go see if Derek's working since they're home now. FASSW definately didn't deserve any of this! I hope this comes back to haunt BI/BO in some way. |  |
| merrideath | 4/18/2005 4:05:55 PM |  | | Oh, and I read in another comment that someone else actually remembers Aphasia?! I'm shocked. They've come a long way from those days. |  |
| christinaNWI | 4/18/2005 4:10:24 PM |  | | A. BIBO doesn't claim to be mature or logical half the time, butt hey stand strong for what they believe in. B. BIBO is an amazing band C. I don't think that innocent cameraperson got hurt on purpose! |  |
| TERISATERROR | 4/18/2005 4:20:35 PM |  | | Bitches got what was coming to them......talk trash for a year and think they can get away with it... |  |
| thehangedman | 4/18/2005 4:25:17 PM |  | | Any of you morons who think this was only about a ceiling tile are fucking idiots and need to wise up. People who talk shit get whats coming to them. Case in point: FASSW. I'm glad they'll never come back to the midwest |  |
| nollieflipFASSWwenEatNpoo | 4/18/2005 4:29:21 PM |  | | anyway i downloaded BI/BO queer cd and made 17 copies of it...i sold 4 of them...for 3 bones each to some gay kids who like that soft herpes shit...hope they go to hell and die...WHAT NOW!.......(ijk) |  |
| inspiredby | 4/18/2005 4:32:32 PM |  | | well, seeing as i was at the chicago show also, it was more than just kicking out tiles, they were being punched and grabbed off the ceiling. |  |
| dillingersxe | 4/18/2005 4:47:55 PM |  | | i did SEE instead of HEAR. i was at the chicago show. the venue is 2 blocks from my house. |  |
| salietata | 4/18/2005 4:47:57 PM |  | | "blood in blood out is not only a terrible band, but they also have the worst name ever. and they're black." hahahaha |  |
| dillingersxe | 4/18/2005 4:48:59 PM |  | | get your facts straight. it was ONE small ceiling tile, and it wasnt broken. after the set, it was put back, UNBROKEN. |  |
| dillingersxe | 4/18/2005 4:50:01 PM |  | | they didnt "mess with chicago hxc". stop trying to act like tough guys. you aren't defending anything. |  |
| dillingersxe | 4/18/2005 4:51:13 PM |  | | besides, tiles are almost always knocked out at that venue. im there every week, dont try to tell me different. |  |
| nollieflipFASSWwenEatNpoo | 4/18/2005 4:55:19 PM |  | | fassw best band yet...any way u fags have fun talking shit to people...saying they were talking shit when u are...bi/bo---wish they were my slaves |  |
| Andrew | 4/18/2005 5:01:00 PM |  | | DillengerSxE you need to get YOUR facts straight. When asked to replace the tile, FASSW called the guy helping the show a "faggot" outside and challenged him to a fight. Don't act you know whats up. |  |
| dillingersxe | 4/18/2005 5:18:27 PM |  | | was the tile replaced? yes... was it broken? no... was there any need to pay for the damage? wait, what damage? so what did i get wrong andrew? |  |
| nailbunny | 4/18/2005 5:18:50 PM |  | | I hope everyone who posted on this topic gets the AIDS. All of you are retards. Shut up. It doesn't matter. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. |  |
| TheRedLetterReallySucks | 4/18/2005 6:03:19 PM |  | | Who fucking cares? Bands get beat up all the time while they're playing it's just not posted on Lambgoat. If you don't like violence then maybe hardcore isn't for you. It happens. And fuck all these racist, homophobic remarks. Seriously. |  |
| corycamefalling | 4/18/2005 6:21:36 PM |  | | if all you fuckers are claiming it was more than a ceiling tile and that fassw was talking shit then would you care to inform the rest of us what was up then. |  |
| elliot | 4/18/2005 7:06:21 PM |  | | "When asked to replace the tile, FASSW called the guy helping the show a "faggot" outside and challenged him to a fight." hahaaha...oh really? that happened? cool! i believe that! |  |
| craniumtrauma | 4/18/2005 8:44:31 PM |  | | People need to chill. BIBO should know hardcore is about the music, not fighting over petty crap. Stop making judgements based on musical preference, the whole thing was immature and uncalled for. |  |
| craniumtrauma | 4/18/2005 8:45:30 PM |  | | hey gurney, warcraft for the win |  |
| ciphersankofa | 4/18/2005 9:36:22 PM |  | | these racist and homphobic remarks are disgusting. the hardcore scene use to challenge oppression. what the hell happened? |  |
| theturnon | 4/18/2005 9:45:40 PM |  | | can someone post a link for the video that actually works |  |
| thehangedman | 4/18/2005 10:14:57 PM |  | | corycamefalling: FASSW talked shit on two occasions, one in chicago when they called one of the promoters a "faggot", and another at Chaos Fest when they shit-talked a local band ON STAGE. fuck'em, they got what they deserved |  |
| thehangedman | 4/18/2005 10:16:06 PM |  | | follow up: who are they to come into someone else's scene/town and just start running their mouth's like they own the fucking place? hopefully they'll never be back |  |
| seanythrash | 4/18/2005 11:40:41 PM |  | | there old singer was getting followed, getting beat up around the ohio area, because he sold out edge. now, there new singer gets ram shacked. this band needs to get some drama free singers......PRICLESS. |  |
| theturnon | 4/19/2005 12:03:30 AM |  | | 200th post fag00ls |  |
| gurneyhalleck | 4/19/2005 12:49:30 AM |  | | Sometimes I wonder if I'm becoming too much of a geek. Now I know it's true.... |  |
| wormwood | 4/19/2005 1:11:15 AM |  | | Before FASSW started to play, the band before them, Once For All, was supposed to end their set. FASSW was checking levels, but they allowed Once For All to play a final song instead of starting their set. |  |
| MissMaren | 4/19/2005 2:15:38 AM |  | | i honestly don't care what happened on either side, but have some damn respect and take it outside. do it in a parking lot..so many kids became involved indirectly..by being forced to witness that petty shit. get over it. |  |
| thefashionshow | 4/19/2005 3:13:57 AM |  | | i know its been said, but FASSW are some of the nicest people. this really did spark a big war...for both FAG IN FAG OUT and fassw. already a billion kids here in ohio ready to destroy BIBO, when they come around here |  |
| thefashionshow | 4/19/2005 3:16:48 AM |  | | and knowing FASSW for the longest time i know that they would have tried to fix the ceiling, i kow derek gave me 15 dollars once for ripping my 2 dollar cord i let him borrow, and apologized all night |  |
| gozer | 4/19/2005 3:19:51 AM |  | | "FSSW laugh about their nu-metal past and know they kick ass now, whee as BIBO has to look in the mirror and say "Fuck, we are still jokes" thats soo true. |  |
| gozer | 4/19/2005 3:23:49 AM |  | | im not surprised that this started in chicago. i have lived here my whole life, all we have here is "tuff guy" and "old school" bands and only their scenester friends come to see them. thank god for the south side! |  |
| yeahdude | 4/19/2005 4:14:23 AM |  | | so where's this video? |  |
| deadgeneration | 4/19/2005 10:21:07 AM |  | | http://rapidshare.de/files/1314396/fassw.avi.html. click free, and wait for the timer to finish, then click the download button. |  |
| chrisd | 4/19/2005 11:04:24 AM |  | | this is why i don't go to these shit fests. bunch of stupid people. |  |
| mattyMOB | 4/19/2005 11:43:51 AM |  | | BI/BO didn't toss fists with anyone that didn't deserve it. they didn't fight cos of a crew...they fought cos of an asshole...that asshole got beat down cos he deserves it |  |
| mattyMOB | 4/19/2005 11:54:59 AM |  | | what crew had anything to do with this you bunch of lame asses?! not one. but seeing BIBO part of MOB...i am proud to be part, we stick up for our friends without question |  |
| peno | 4/19/2005 12:21:10 PM |  | | Its days like today I'm embarassed to be a hardcore fan. This is some meathead ozzfest shit right here. I fear the end is near. |  |
| killwaukee | 4/19/2005 2:26:17 PM |  | | you are all stupid, stop talking about this. you know nothing |  |
| XOmeletX | 4/19/2005 3:24:39 PM |  | | Hey guys I heard about this fight at this one fest in Chicago. |  |
| buckwheat | 4/19/2005 5:05:18 PM |  | | Get the fuck out of hardcore and get back on the fucking football field. You're nothing but jocks in cammo shorts. |  |
| ihatepickingusernames | 4/19/2005 6:12:33 PM |  | | okay this thing sucks. it won't let me post what i want to post. i knew there was a reason i left this site. bottom line. BIBO sucks and i hope they die of aids. If you guys are so hard up to beat someone up go to a slipknot show or something. |  |
| brodowntonight | 4/19/2005 6:27:45 PM |  | | Dear BIBO fans: You really shouldn't be upset because FASSW makes your tough guy band look like Yanni on roofies. |  |
| salietata | 4/19/2005 7:02:57 PM |  | | "If you guys are so hard up to beat someone up go to a slipknot show or something." i like you . haha |  |
| withdeadhandsrising | 4/19/2005 7:29:01 PM |  | | FASSW covers slipknot at their shows, though. i think that's hilarious because they know as well as their fans do that EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU was a lame numetal kid at one point. |  |
| Jay | 4/19/2005 8:46:18 PM |  | | Guy completely schools the Cock In/Blood Out faggots: http://blackmarketactivities.com/label/news/ |  |
| TakingBackCuntday | 4/20/2005 1:11:56 AM |  | | FASSW got what they deserved. I reside in the area in which they live. They talk so much shit on everyone. As nice as Derek or any of them seem don't believe it. |  |
| Takingbackcuntday | 4/20/2005 1:14:56 AM |  | | They have egos the size of most black dicks and could give a shit less about you or your scene. I remember they played a show as their past band Aphaisa in cleveland. |  |
| TakingBackCuntday | 4/20/2005 1:17:40 AM |  | | They played with hardcore bands and got heckled. They cried after that, threw away their UFO fat pants and kicked out thier DJ guy becasue they wanted to "FIT IN." |  |
| TakingBackCuntday | 4/20/2005 1:18:37 AM |  | | Fuck them, they are begging for donations on thier site. I am going to send them expired Mcdonalds coupons for chicken selects. |  |
| christinaNWI | 4/20/2005 4:47:29 AM |  | | ONCE AGAIN, THIS FIGHT WASN'T OVER A CEILING TILE!!! FASSW are retarded assholes that run their mouths and they mocked OFA when they were playing their deserved, last song. By the way BIBO is from INDIANA, not Chicago! |  |
| xedgexenglishx | 4/20/2005 8:58:04 AM |  | | that update is so true..people need to learn how to respect one another and be responsible for themselves. |  |
| Jay | 4/20/2005 12:07:26 PM |  | | I like how all the Blood In Blood out Supporters/faggots act like they've been listening to hardcore all there life, and never went thru there retarded nu metal stage. Go back to listening to disturbed, faggots. OHH AHH AHH AHH AHH!!!!!! |  |
| slayer_sucka | 4/20/2005 5:20:00 PM |  | | BIBO are from Indiana, not Chicago. They are the biggest group of morons I have ever met. |  |
| nollieflipFASSWwenEatNpoo | 4/20/2005 11:18:05 PM |  | | stop sitting by the computer like low lifes calling being fags, bitches whatever. some of u say fassw was talking shit when ur doing it to others... |  |
| nollieflipFASSWwenEatNpoo | 4/20/2005 11:21:32 PM |  | | ...whats next are u going to be a bunch of pussies like BI/BO and get 20 of ur friends and jump a few people over childish shit... |  |
| nollieflipFASSWwenEatNpoo | 4/20/2005 11:29:56 PM |  | | ...fassw-best band yet! all u get off the pc and get some exersize...go jack off....bi/bo and their fans need to get the sand out of thier vagina!bye fat asses |  |
| TapDance | 4/21/2005 3:42:07 PM |  | | i just saw the video and it sucks, does anyone know where i can find a better one? |  |
| I_FUCKING_WIN | 4/26/2005 1:06:59 AM |  | | maybe you kids have a weath of venues but in chicago we have gotten kicked out of alot of places because of from bands on tour doing stupid things. so don't come to our city and fuck with our shit. the end. |  |
| DEADFORWEEKS | 5/15/2005 10:57:34 AM |  | | CROWDSURFING AND KNOCKED OVER A CEILING TILE? WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THIS VENUE? FUCKING 5 FEET? ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. Looks like the Chicago local-hardcore scene will now have to resort to some fat Barbar's basement now. |  |
| XstixXEYC | 5/24/2005 4:49:31 AM |  | | In all honesty all you people suck. Not only do you just sit on the computer and talk intershit, but none of you make any sense. |  |
| XstixXEYC | 5/24/2005 4:49:42 AM |  | | Bottom line is some people felt as if that stupid band deserved getting beat up, and some didn't. It's just as with every issue everyone has their own opinion of who is wrong and who is right. |  |
| XstixXEYC | 5/24/2005 4:49:55 AM |  | | If you have a problem with BIBO then go say something to them, don't post on a stupid ass message board. Half you people don't even go to shows unless there's a popular band playing anyway, so you people don't even deserve to speak. |  |
| XstixXEYC | 5/24/2005 4:51:43 AM |  | | And for the record I never went through a Nu-Metal phase because I have been listening to metal long before Nu-Metal was even around. |  |
| XstixXEYC | 5/24/2005 4:51:50 AM |  | | So don't sit here and talk to me about how FASSW is the best band around right now because you haven't been around long enough to even deserve an opinion, put in your time bitch |  |
| OKIO | 5/27/2005 3:07:49 AM |  | | If anyone wearing a football jersey at a show came at me throwing punches, I'd take the beating and laugh in his fucking face. |  |
| ricky | 10/28/2006 1:14:43 PM |  | | last comment |  |
| robert | 5/12/2007 3:34:23 AM |  | | ^^^^^ Owned. |  |
| xBILLfromsteinx | 5/19/2008 1:05:26 PM |  | | ^^ cockface. i'm the real king. both bands blow. fuck gay ppl |  |
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