On Sunday, we gently called out
record label We Are Triumphant
for ripping a few of Jared Dines
' popular YouTube videos and uploading them to the WAT Facebook page, all in an attempt to get Facebook likes for said page. It's now Tuesday, so we thought we'd check back in and see what's transpired in the interim.
Amidst the initial backlash, We Are Triumphant owner Greg Long maintained that there were no issues between him and Jared Dines.
Unfortunately, Long's characterization apparently wasn't entirely accurate, at least not if a subsequent Facebook post from Dines is to be believed:
So, We Are Triumphant offered Dines $100 to make three more videos? Interesting. Regardless of what was offered to whom, there was indeed some back and forth between WAT and Dines relative to a possible partnership between the two. Long responded to the above Facebook post from Dines with the following, in which he shows a screenshot with some stipulations from Dines. The conversation then gets a bit contentious, and the potential relationship appears to be dead in the water.
Despite the failed partnership, We Are Triumphant continues to benefit from Dines' videos, including the "10 styles of metal" video, which is now up to 4.2 million views through We Are Triumphant's Facebook post.
In fact, the aforementioned Dines video isn't even the most popular of the videos WAT ripped. That would this iPad drumming video
, which has 4.6 million views via WAT's Facebook. Yes, it was another video Long ripped from YouTube
and uploaded to Facebook. Only this time, its creator appears to live in Asia and probably isn't even aware of the video's repurposing.
Meanwhile, the We Are Triumphant Facebook page has now surpassed 92,000 likes. That's roughly 25,000 new likes since WAT's video ripping endeavor commenced. To be fair, Dines has benefited from the Facebook video posts as well, gaining a few thousand YouTube subscribers.
While defending himself against Dines' attacks, WAT and Long were on the hunt for more potential viral videos, asking San Francisco band High Society
if he could upload their popular, albeit two-year old "Shit band guys say" video:
High Society wasn't interested, as you can see above, but before they even responded, Long had uploaded their video anyway:
Not long after, High Society noticed and asked We Are Triumphant to remove the video. Long subsequently complied and deleted the video, but then tried again to get High Society to give him permission.
Strangely, at some point soon after, Long re-uploaded the video to Facebook, and made a point to inform "trolls" that he had permission to do so (
he obviously did not
Long gave me a screenshot which shows that High Society did briefly give him permission to post the video).
Fast forward a few hours and Long deleted the video yet again. What the fuck? I don't know the guy, but this is all very strange behavior (update
- strange, but not as strange as I had first thought - see previous update).
Last night, We Are Triumphant was working on getting permission to upload other videos to the WAT Facebook:
One can't help but laugh at Long's perseverance.
Just so I'm clear, this isn't some witch-hunt directed at Long. He's obviously found and developed some popular bands. He's wisely put a lot of time and energy into social media and I can't fault the guy for lack of effort. Additionally, he's not entirely wrong about his posts being beneficial for both We Are Triumphant and people like Jared Dines. Dines definitely got some additional exposure. However, that's the way it should be; he did all the work. Meanwhile, Long ripped a video, uploaded it, and got a ton of value, all off Dines' back. It's not a fair partnership in the least. That's what upsets some people, particularly those who create YouTube videos for a living.
Alright, I'm done. Lol.